badger comments on Excluding the Supernatural - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JohnH 22 April 2011 01:18:18AM 0 points [-]

The definition given of supernatural doesn't make sense from my perspective, not even of God. As far as I can tell the definition describes exactly nothing.

I still believe in the supernatural in the sense of I know God is real and so are spirits and the devil. However spirit is some form of matter, God has a body of flesh and bones, and both God and the rest of the universe has existed in some form forever. Also God does not violate natural laws, though he does work with higher laws then what we currently know. Clearly not the standard religous claims and while it may seem that I am tailoring these beliefs to meet objections I am not; they are found in the Doctrine and Covenants of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and were given in the 1830-1840's.

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 22 April 2011 01:26:11AM 7 points [-]

So basically God is a sufficiently advanced alien.

Comment author: badger 25 April 2011 04:30:43PM 2 points [-]

This is non-standard, but not uncommon. My father-in-law will readily say he believes in a non-omniscient, non-omnipotent, naturalistic god.

The other extreme – everything is supernatural – is also present in LDS theology. All matter is composed of intelligence and hence under God's command because it recognizes his authority.