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Comment author: ChristianKl 10 December 2015 10:24:06AM 0 points [-]

First, maybe you should apply some of that empiricism you like to talk about and notice that when you actually put the question to a committed naturalist you didn't get that response.

I do applied empiricism in the sense that I made a prediction that it's worthless to try to give you a specific example and indeed I find that it's worthless.

Comment author: gjm 10 December 2015 10:55:32AM 1 point [-]

What sort of response would have been evidence of its not being worthless? What are you trying to achieve here?

Comment author: ChristianKl 10 December 2015 11:04:10AM 0 points [-]

What sort of response would have been evidence of its not being worthless? What are you trying to achieve here?

As far as giving you the example, the goal of the example was giving you the example helps you to understand something that you haven't before.

But generally writing more about the purpose of this conversation would only open more issues that I can't fully explain.

Comment author: Jiro 10 December 2015 03:16:39PM 1 point [-]

Or perhaps the problem is that you aren't even trying to be understood. "You guys are making worse predictions than you would if you thought like me." Oh, that's interesting; what predictions? "There's no point saying; you don't have the necessary concepts." Oh, what concepts? "There's no point saying; you wouldn't understand."

Leading to the question

Well, you might be right, but how can a conversation like this possibly be any use to anyone?

A little later...

But generally writing more about the purpose of this conversation would only open more issues that I can't fully explain.

It's turtles all the way down

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