ChristianKl comments on How Many LHC Failures Is Too Many? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: hairyfigment 09 October 2016 12:12:59AM 0 points [-]

The video is somewhat odd in that he claims Descartes had no problem with experiments, but I recall the philosopher proposing rules which contradicted experiments and hand-waving this by appealing to the impossibility of observing bodies in isolation.

In any case, Hakob does make clear that Descartes used a more Aristotelian method as a rhetorical device to persuade Aristotelians. (In effect, he proved the method of intuitive truth unreliable by producing a contradiction.) I don't believe his work includes any workable method you could use to do science, while Newton's rules for natural philosophy seem like an OK approximation.

Comment author: ChristianKl 09 October 2016 10:20:18AM 0 points [-]

The main point is that if you buy the philosophic commitments of Descartes the hypothetico-deductive method is a straightforward conclusion. Newton might have expressed the method more clearly but various people moved in that directions once Descartes successfully argued against the old way.

Comment author: hairyfigment 10 October 2016 01:39:19AM 0 points [-]

Possibly, but I wouldn't say the popes started science by being terrible rulers, thereby creating a clearer distinction between religious and secular.

Comment author: ChristianKl 10 October 2016 01:55:57PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: hairyfigment 11 October 2016 02:03:56AM 0 points [-]

Even there, someone points out that Bacon wasn't big on math. I'll grant you I should give him more credit for a sensible conclusion on heat, and for encouraging experiments.