JohnH comments on Beyond the Reach of God - Less Wrong

66 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 October 2008 03:42PM

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Comment author: Will_Pearson 05 October 2008 08:53:00AM 0 points [-]

I'm surprised by the commenters who cannot conceive of a future life that is more fun than the one they have now - who can't imagine a future they would want to stick around for. Maybe I should bump the priority of the Fun Theory sequence.

I a different type of fun helping people perform a somewhat meaningful* task than I do when I am just hanging out, puzzle solving, adventure sports or going on holiday. I have a little nagging voice asking, "What was the point of that". Which needs to be placated every so often, else the other types of fun lose their shine.

If I'm revived into a culture that has sufficient technology to revive me, then it is likely that it will not need any help that I could provide. My choices would be, no longer be myself by radically altering my brain to be of some use to people or immerse myself in make work fantasy tasks. If I pick the first, it makes little difference to my current self whether it is radically altered me or someone else being useful. The second choice is also not appealing, it would require lying to myself sufficiently well in order to fool my pointfulness meter.

*Tasks that have real world consequences

Comment author: JohnH 22 April 2011 04:38:23AM 4 points [-]

You gain experience and new neuron connections all the time, do these things not make you to be yourself? If you are not yourself after gaining experience then the "you" that finishes this sentence is not the "you" that started it, may that "you" rest in peace. Further, I wear glasses which thing augments my abilities greatly, do the glasses make me a different "me" then I would be if glasses had not been invented? If not how is it different then adding new neurons to the brain?

Further, is learning new things not a meaningful experience to you? If you are required to learn lots of new things shouldn't that make the experience more enticing, especially if one knew one would have the time to both learn whatever one wished and to apply what one had learned.

Comment author: Exemplis 17 July 2014 03:38:29AM *  0 points [-]

Lets do some necromancy here.

Im relatevily new to all ths OB and LW stuff, just getting through major sequences (pls excuse my bad English, its not the language i frequently use). Could u point me in the direction of a thread, where "the glorious possibilities of human immortality" are discussed. What i see from the comments here - is the notion to become some sort of ultimately efficient black hole-like eternal information destroyers. Correct me where im wrong, but it is the logical conclusion of minimizing "self" entropy while maximizing information input.

Comment author: hairyfigment 17 July 2014 08:00:30AM -1 points [-]

The Fun Theory Sequence might help, especially the last post on the list. Can't say more without understanding the purpose of your question better. (Also, I didn't write the grandparent comment.)