Houshalter comments on Beyond the Reach of God - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Houshalter 16 May 2014 06:28:59PM -1 points [-]

What's the point of having feelings or emotions at all? Are they not all "pointless"?

Comment author: keen 16 May 2014 06:36:41PM 0 points [-]

I suggest that you research the difference between instrumental values and terminal values.

Comment author: Houshalter 17 May 2014 02:48:23AM 1 point [-]

I understand the difference. Perhaps I wasn't clear. You can't just call feelings "pointless" because they don't change anything.

Comment author: Swimmer963 17 May 2014 03:50:55PM 1 point [-]

You could argue that some feelings do change things and have an effect on actions; sometimes in a negative direction (i.e. anger leading to vengeance and war) sometimes in a positive direction (i.e. Gratitude resulting in kindness and help.) Anger in this example can be considered "pointless" not because it has no effect upon the world, but because it's effect is negative and not endorsed intellectually. I think that's the sense in which despair is pointless in the original example. It does have an effect on the world; it results in people NOT taking actions to make things better.

You could argue with the use of the word "pointless", I suppose.