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Comment author: datadataeverywhere 30 September 2010 04:42:49PM 0 points [-]

I can't think of a good ethical reason to object to consensual (for strong definitions of the word consensual) cannibalism.

On the other hand, while I eat fish and foul, I don't eat mammals, and ethical objections make up a portion of my reasons.

Comment author: jimrandomh 30 September 2010 05:00:48PM *  0 points [-]

I don't think our society currently has or is capable of implementing a definition of consent strong enough for being cannibalized (or other forms of suicide). I wouldn't consider anyone to have consented to die pointlessly unless they not only expressed their consent in writing, but also maintained that position through a year of competent therapy and antidepressants.

Comment author: datadataeverywhere 30 September 2010 05:26:11PM 0 points [-]

I'm sorry to be confusing; I see cannibalism as orthogonal to death; one can amputate one's own leg and feed it to one's friends, or one can die of natural causes and permit others to consume the remains. In the grandparent, I wasn't considering dying being a part of the process of cannibalism.

As to dying for the purpose of being consumed, I don't think sane humans can consent to that, but other intelligences could, as long as they felt that the cost of dying was not high (i.e., they are confident that their goals will be accomplished regardless of their death). This is unlikely, but at least possible in my conception.

Comment author: erratio 30 September 2010 08:18:22PM 1 point [-]

Assisted suicide clinics exist legally in Switzerland, and they require large amounts of proof that wanting to die is sane under the circumstances (usually a sharp decrease in quality of life because of some chronic injury or illness, with no cure and that is slated to get worse over time). I'm pretty sure they don't accept people suffering from ennui.

My point being, I think a strong enough version of consent already exists and is in use.

Comment author: handoflixue 22 December 2010 09:17:17PM 0 points [-]

"but also maintained that position through a year of competent therapy and antidepressants."

Having been on antidepressants for a year, I'd point out I'd be significantly more inclined to let someone cannibalize me if I was on them. Neurochemistry is fickle and individual, and those things do not always do what it says on the label...