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38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 October 2008 01:07AM

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Comment author: Doug_S. 17 October 2008 02:03:01AM 2 points [-]

What Aaron Brown said.

Anyone who wants to make blasphemy a crime is probably guilty of "hating freedom".

Comment author: Oligopsony 27 April 2012 01:41:44PM 5 points [-]

No, just hating blasphemy. Almost everyone wants at least some things to be crimes; hating freedom won't tell you anything as specific as making blasphemy (but not other random acts) one. Banning blasphemy is hating freedom like legalizing blasphemy is misotheism.

Comment author: komponisto 27 April 2012 02:28:02PM 1 point [-]

The word "probably" is key: this is a Bayesian inference based on the actual state of the world. There is enough disagreement about how bad blasphemy is that wanting to ban it is significant evidence of placing a low value on freedom.

Comment author: Oligopsony 27 April 2012 02:59:52PM *  6 points [-]

Oh, obviously they place a low value on freedom. But if we elide between "cares a lot less about x than me" with "cares negatively about x," I think we've missed Eliezer's point here. The modal capitalist ideologue doesn't hate equality or piety or whatever.

Comment author: MBlume 07 January 2014 05:41:32PM 0 points [-]

"Anyone who wants to make disturbing the peace a crime is probably guilty of 'hating freedom'"

No, they have different priorities from you.

Comment author: blacktrance 07 January 2014 06:20:04PM 1 point [-]

Not mutually exclusive, and can be a nicer way of saying the same thing.