simplicio comments on Dark Side Epistemology - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Peter3 18 October 2008 01:58:07AM 1 point [-]

In general, beliefs require evidence.

In general? Which beliefs don't?

Think of what it would take to deny evolution or heliocentrism

Or what it would take to prove that the Moon doesn't exist.

As for listing common memes that were spawned by the Dark Side - would you care to take a stab at it, dear readers?

Cultural relativity. Such-and-such is unconstitutional. The founding fathers never intended... (various appeals to stick to the founding fathers original vision) Be reasonable (moderate) Show respect for your elders It's my private property _____ is human nature. Don't judge me. _____ is unnatural and therefore wrong. _____ is natural and therefore right. We need to switch to alternative energies such as wind, solar, and tidal. The poor are lazy The entire American political vocabulary (bordering on Orwellian) Animal rights

.. much more.

Comment author: simplicio 06 March 2010 05:17:27AM 18 points [-]

"'In general, beliefs require evidence.' In general? Which beliefs don't?"

This is a language problem. "In general" or "generally" to a scientist/mathematician/engineer means "always," whereas in everyday speech it means "sometimes."

For example I could tell you that a fence with 2 sections has 3 posts ( I=I=I ), or I could tell you that "in general" a fence with N sections has N+1 posts.

Comment author: wedrifid 06 March 2010 09:57:21AM 5 points [-]

Where N >= 3 the fence can (and often does) have N posts.

Comment author: simplicio 06 March 2010 04:26:27PM 2 points [-]

Ya, if it wraps in on itself, for sure.

Or if the farmer uses a tree instead. ;)

Comment author: kpreid 06 March 2010 05:18:37PM 9 points [-]

“How many posts does a fence have, if you call the tree a post?”