frelkins comments on BHTV: Jaron Lanier and Yudkowsky - Less Wrong

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Comment author: frelkins 04 November 2008 04:17:00AM 0 points [-]

@Yvain

"But consciousness is not an object; it's the subject, that by which objects are perceived. Trying to apply rules about objects to it is a category error"

Yes I agree, Jaron appears to argue as a neo-Kantian, a la Thomas Nagel. This is an intellectually respectable position. Robin has called Nagel excellent.

@Janus

If we were rational in good faith and sought truth, wouldn't we all have moved closer to Jaron? Otherwise, what are we?