Psy-Kosh comments on Thanksgiving Prayer - Less Wrong

20 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 November 2008 04:17AM

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Comment author: Psy-Kosh 29 November 2008 06:15:32PM 4 points [-]

Unknown: uh... no. That's a bit of word games nonsense. Playing word games is not a way to resolve the dispute, since you know very well that what you said was not what was intended by the definition I gave.

First, the mathematical object didn't "create" the world, it _is_ the world.

Second, no way no how could one justifiably consider it to be doing it as a "deliberate act of will to achieve _desired_ ends" To simply say "it has structure/order, therefor will" and claim that "by definition" is absurd.

Its nature may cause/be reality, but it certainly isn't doing it with goals/desires/will. That is, this in no way is anywhere near the cluster of things that I'd consider "will"