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Comment author: lukeprog 26 March 2011 03:56:31AM 0 points [-]

The most painful memories in my life have been when other people thought they knew better than me, and tried to do things on my behalf.

Fascinating. You must either lead an extraordinarily pain-free existence, or not just be "individualistic" but very sensitive about your competence - which I think is odd for someone of such deep and wide-ranging intellectual competence.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 March 2011 04:07:34AM 11 points [-]

Got no idea what you mean by either of those clauses. Why wouldn't the most painful times in your life be someone else's well-meant disaster, forced on you without your control? And then the second clause I don't understand at all.

Comment author: lukeprog 26 March 2011 04:16:19AM 3 points [-]

Oh, I gotcha. I thought you were saying that you are so individualistic that the subjective experience of having someone think they knew better than you and trying to do something on your behalf was badly painful, but now it sounds to me like you're saying the consequences of people trying to do things on your behalf with an inferior understanding of the situation are some of the most painful memories of your life, because those other persons really screwed things up. I assumed the first interpretation because the sentence I quoted is followed by one describing the hedonic consequences of doing things yourself.