Zack_M_Davis comments on You Only Live Twice - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 03 February 2011 07:20:36PM *  4 points [-]

Abandoning one's perspective isn't the same thing as abandoning one's values (as I interpret the words). For example, in the default human perspective, it's natural to be indifferent to other people's experiences: we don't care if others are suffering, as long as we're doing okay. But from a more global perspective, this is kind of bizarre: the experience is still there even if it's not you who's experiencing it, for the same reason the world doesn't actually go dark when you close your eyes.

Comment author: shokwave 03 February 2011 10:44:14PM 0 points [-]

they would realize that there isn't anything preferable about "one of the people in the far future having distant memories of being me" as opposed to "no-one in the far future having such memories."

This sounds like a value, though. I interpreted your comment as saying "if people stood back from their perspectives, they would see their values aren't preferable".

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 03 February 2011 11:31:36PM *  1 point [-]

This sounds like a value, though.

I agree.

I interpreted your comment

Note that I am not AlephNeil; I assumed your question wasn't necessarily directed at him specifically.

Comment author: shokwave 04 February 2011 05:17:35AM 2 points [-]

Foiled by the anti-kibitzer!