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BHTV: de Grey and Yudkowsky

1Eliezer_Yudkowsky13 December 2008 03:28PM

My latest on Bloggingheads.tv is up.  BHTV wanted someone to interview Aubrey de Grey of the Methuselah Foundation about basic research in antiagathics, and they picked me to do it.  It made the interview somewhat difficult, since Aubrey and I already agree about most things, but we managed to soldier on.  The interview is mostly Aubrey talking, as it should be.

Comments (12)

FrF13 December 2008 04:09:47PM* 0 points [-]

I'm very much looking foward to this!

Incidentally, I received my paperback of "Ending Aging" today. For those of you who have the EA's hardback edition: The paperback has an additional 40-page afterword. (This gets probably mentioned in the above interview but I thought it couldn't hurt if I give this comment at least a bit of weight.)

[EDIT in March 2010 for clarity.]

Tim_Tyler13 December 2008 05:22:40PM0 points [-]

On one point, see the recent TED talk on neurodegeneration and anti-aging: Gregory Petsko: The coming neurological epidemic.

On another, see my essay: http://alife.co.uk/essays/adaptive_senescence/

Paul_Rhodes13 December 2008 05:27:17PM0 points [-]

I appreciate Aubrey de Grey's willingness to make a quantitative prediction of when actuarial escape velocity may be reached, along with an emphasis of the likely variance accompanied by his prediction.

So, Eliezer... have you devised any stock predictions for the media regarding the time until AI breakthroughs? I'm sure everyone would love to hear them, lest we naturally conclude that an intelligence explosion will occur tomorrow or never.

Furcas13 December 2008 08:54:33PM0 points [-]

Very good job, Eliezer.

Tim_Tyler13 December 2008 10:30:14PM0 points [-]

An well-trodden point from my perspective - but de Grey's list of damage makes no mention of pathogens. Yet a number of types of pathogens are long-lived entities that accumulate and eventually do you in. So: a pathogen plan is needed - and dealing with pathogens is not an easy problem.

Tom_P14 December 2008 06:39:45AM0 points [-]

Tim: What pathogens are you referring to?

Hopefully_Anonymous14 December 2008 09:26:17AM0 points [-]

Very good job, Eliezer. I recommend you do a BHTV tour of all the big blogging names in cryonics, life extension, and existential risk minimization. Kurzweil, Bostrom, and Hanson too, of course. They're probably asking you to do this already.

Tim_Tyler14 December 2008 10:21:28AM0 points [-]

Persistent ones that accumulate. Mainly viruses. In a lifetime people gradually rack up a load of Persistent Viral Infections - and many of them strike when a person is ill and their immune system is weakened.

Tim_Tyler14 December 2008 05:54:25PM0 points [-]

Your point that if I don't give the answer the audience literally has no choice but to make their own guesses, which can only be based on even less information

"The answer": heh. No doubt the audience members are collectively pleased to hear about how poorly informed they supposedly are.

Eric514 December 2008 10:18:20PM0 points [-]

Every time I see Aubrey de Grey talk, I'm struck by how at a gut level it seems appropriate for a guy who works for a place called the Methuselah foundation to have a beard like that. I mean seriously - if the guy can grow a beard like that, why wouldn't you trust him to help you live forever?

Michael_G.R.14 December 2008 10:27:37PM0 points [-]

"The paperback has an additional 40-page "Afterword"."

Argh. I already have two copies of the hardback, including an autographed one. Now you're tempting me to get a third copy (makes a good gift, I guess).

Tim_Tyler18 January 2009 11:43:55AM0 points [-]