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Comment author: Alicorn 30 March 2011 05:12:21AM 7 points [-]

If I would have to listen to anybody else in order to be able to make the best possible decision about what to do with the world, this would mean I would have less than unlimited power. Someone who has unlimited power will always do the right thing, by nature.

I recommend reading this sequence. Suffice it to say that you are wrong, and power does not bring with it morality.

a happy person doesn't hate.

What is your support for this claim? (I smell argument by definition...)

Comment author: p4wnc6 29 June 2011 12:34:21AM *  0 points [-]

What's wrong with Uni's claim? If you have unlimited power, one possible choice is to put all the other sentient beings into a state of euphoric intoxication such that they don't hate you. Yes, that is by definition. Go figure out a state for each agent so that it doesn't hate you and put it into that state, then you've got a counter example to Billy's claim above. Maybe a given agent's former volition would have chosen to hate you if it was aware of the state you forced it into later on, but that's a different thing than caring if the agent itself hates you as a result of changes you make. This is a valid counter-example. I have read the coming of age sequence and don't see what you're referring to in there that makes your point. Perhaps you could point me back to some specific parts of those posts.