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26 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 December 2008 12:31AM

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Comment author: ShardPhoenix 20 December 2008 06:13:52PM 0 points [-]

I think some of the above posts have a point - what's the difference between "fun" and wireheading if what you're doing for fun has no impact on the external world (because you've already set up your physical situation more-or-less as well as it can be given the laws of physics)?

Maybe if we can somehow reach other universes or some sort of (physical) "higher planes of existence" then there will always be something that "needs to be done", but otherwise it seems that there will come a point where there is nothing to do but await the heat-death of the universe.

Honestly, reading these articles might be having the opposite of the intended effect on me, making me more nihilistic. You keep talking about "fun" and I keep wondering what the point is when the desire for fun isn't really different from hunger or other evolution-driven desires that would presumably be (optionally?) eliminated in a friendly singularity scenario.

If you never get bored, do you care about or need to have fun?