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39 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 January 2009 11:49PM

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Comment author: Caledonian2 09 January 2009 06:16:42PM 2 points [-]

I'd say the primary bad thing about pain is not that it hurts, but that it's pushy and won't tune out. You could learn to sleep in a ship's engine room, but a mere stubbed toe grabs and holds your attention.

That, I think we could delete with impunity.

If we could learn to simply get along with any level of pain... how would it constitute an obstacle?

Real accomplishment requires real obstacles to avoid, remove, or transcend. Real obstacles require real consequences. And real consequences require pain.

Comment author: pnrjulius 07 June 2012 12:12:35AM 0 points [-]

In that case, we'll never get anything done, because you only count something as "real accomplishment" if we have things that prevent us from doing it. Once we get rid of the obstacles and do it, now it's not a "real accomplishment" anymore.