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Cortexelus comments on Building Weirdtopia - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Cortexelus 27 October 2009 08:56:51PM *  6 points [-]


  • Utopia: All possible utopias exist simultaneously. On a whim, one can instantly shift one's utopian situation to perfectly reflect one's mind so as produce maximum bliss/happiness/orgasm/utility/LMAO/utopianess/nirvana/whatever you want.

  • Dystopia: All possible dystopias exist simultaneously. At every moment, one's dystopian situation shifts in perfect response to one's mind so as to produce maximum dissonance.

  • Weirdtopia: All possible weirdtopias exist, but only when you think they don't. At every moment, one's existential situation shifts in perfect response to one's mind to produce maximum bewilderment. The world is always what you think it isn't. Even when you know it isn't what you believe it is. Weirdtopia has nothing to do with this description. To think weirdtopia impossible is for it to exist. Weirdtopia has both and neither everything and nothing to do with paradoxes.

Comment author: gwern 27 October 2009 09:11:22PM 2 points [-]

It's a nice weirdtopia, but it seems like it might have problems with your continued existence, eg. if I think a weirdtopia with the current laws of physics, do I die the instant my weirdtopia shifts to the next one? (If I don't, how could the weirdtopia possibly shift the laws without killing me, given the consilience of science? see http://lesswrong.com/lw/hq/universal_fire/ )

Comment author: Cortexelus 27 October 2009 09:23:24PM 6 points [-]

Your problem with the paradox of continued existence in weirdtopia necessarily continues your existence.

Comment author: gwern 27 October 2009 09:30:35PM 1 point [-]