DanielLC comments on Sympathetic Minds - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JulianMorrison 12 February 2013 10:46:11PM 0 points [-]

Now learn the Portia trick, and don't be so sure that you can judge power in a mind that doesn't share our evolutionary history.

Also watch the Alien movies, because those aren't bad models of what a maximizer would be like if it was somewhere between animalistic and closely subhuman. Xenomorphs are basically xenomorph-maximizers. In the fourth movie, the scientists try to cut a deal. The xenomorph queen plays along - until she doesn't. She's always, always plotting. Not evil, just purposeful with purposes that are inimical to ours. (I know, generalizing from fictional evidence - this isn't evidence, it's a model to give you an emotional grasp.)

Comment author: DanielLC 13 February 2013 06:52:46AM 0 points [-]

Now learn the Portia trick, and don't be so sure that you can judge power in a mind that doesn't share our evolutionary history.

Okay. What's scary is that it might be powerful.

The xenomorph queen plays along - until she doesn't.

And how well does she do? How well would she have done had she cooperated from the beginning?

I haven't watched the movies. I suppose it's possible that the humans would just never be willing to cooperate with Xenomorphs on a large scale, but I doubt that.