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Comment author: Timwi 12 April 2012 09:49:42PM 4 points [-]

Your post explains how the bible describes heaven. However, when I hear the phrase “Christian heaven” I tend to take it to mean “heaven as Christians today understand it”. You may well be right that the bible doesn’t directly imply that it includes singing hymns for the rest of eternity, but clearly it is widely imagined that way, otherwise we wouldn’t all have heard that idea.

Comment author: [deleted] 12 April 2012 10:16:27PM 2 points [-]

It's an often described caricature of heaven but I imagine that most believers would say that heaven isn't actually like that, and possibly add something about how the things a soul experiences in heaven are beyond mortal comprehension.

Comment author: grendelkhan 04 March 2014 06:11:04PM 1 point [-]

I think you may have been giving them too much credit. Here's an adherent explaining that wireheading is a bad thing, but in heaven, wireheading is good because everything in heaven is good.

I don't think people don't always put much effort into critically considering their beliefs.

I had an idea for a sort of Christian fanfiction, in which people marked for heaven and people marked for hell both go into the same firey pit, but the former are wireheaded to be happy about it. It's a far more efficient construction that way. (I suppose you could also do the reverse, with the people marked for hell being reverse-wireheaded to find nice things agonizing, but that doesn't have the same tasty irony.)

Comment author: polymathwannabe 04 March 2014 06:34:54PM 3 points [-]

That's the standard Eastern Orthodox doctrine: everybody goes to heaven, but only those who love God will enjoy it.

Comment author: grendelkhan 08 April 2014 05:18:53PM 1 point [-]

Fascinating!

These theological symbols, heaven and hell, are not crudely understood as spatial dimensions but rather refer to the experience of God's presence according to two different modes.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 04 March 2014 08:13:48PM 0 points [-]

(I suppose you could also do the reverse, with the people marked for hell being reverse-wireheaded to find nice things agonizing, but that doesn't have the same tasty irony.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Nice_Place_to_Visit