Jayson_Virissimo comments on Interlude with the Confessor (4/8) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 16 March 2015 04:31:04PM *  2 points [-]

I seem to recall that at some point in Europe the feudal lord or whatever could have his way with your wife, and you had no recourse. This, of course, probably has more to do with inequality than anything else.

Like the use of chastity belts, the droit du seigneur is just more made-up bullshit to defame the medievals.

Comment author: Lumifer 16 March 2015 04:42:47PM 0 points [-]

is just more made-up bullshit

Your own Wikipedia link seems to be quite clear that this right did exist at certain times in certain cultures.

Interestingly enough, Wikipedia states "There is no evidence of the alleged right in medieval Europe", but as support links to Britannica which says a very different thing: "The custom is paralleled in various primitive societies, but the evidence of its existence in Europe is all indirect."

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 17 March 2015 10:32:29PM 1 point [-]

Your own Wikipedia link seems to be quite clear that this right did exist at certain times in certain cultures.

I am not claiming that it never existed anywhere. Merely, that it very likely didn't exist (as a common practice) in the European Middle Ages.

Interestingly enough, Wikipedia states "There is no evidence of the alleged right in medieval Europe", but as support links to Britannica which says a very different thing: "The custom is paralleled in various primitive societies, but the evidence of its existence in Europe is all indirect."

The text is behind a paywall, so I don't know what indirect evidence they refer to, but the only evidence I've seen is hearsay from Enlightenment thinkers that otherwise had a track record of making exaggerated or outright false claims about the Middle Ages.