AdeleneDawner comments on A social norm against unjustified opinions? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AdeleneDawner 01 June 2009 04:27:17PM 0 points [-]

I've pretty much figured that out. If nothing else, Annoyance is being an excellent example of that right now.

Next question: Is it something about this method of approaching rationality that encourages that failure mode? How did Annoyance fall off the path, and can I avoid doing the same if I proceed?

I'm starting to think that the answer to that last question is yes, though.

Comment author: MrHen 01 June 2009 04:43:35PM 2 points [-]

How did Annoyance fall off the path, and can I avoid doing the same if I proceed?

While I find conversations with Annoyance rather void, I would encourage you to not try and lift (him ?) up as an example of falling off the path or entering failure modes. If you care about the question I would make a post using generic examples. This does a few things:

  • Gets you away from any emotional responses to Annoyance (both in yourself and anyone else).
  • Provides a clear-cut example that can be picked apart without making this entire thread required reading. It also cleans up many straw men and red herrings before they happen, since the specifics in the thread are mostly unneeded with relation to the question you have just asked.
  • Brings attention to the core problem that needs to be addressed and avoids any specific diagnoses of Annoyance (for better or worse)
Comment author: AdeleneDawner 01 June 2009 05:49:21PM 0 points [-]

That's very good advice. However, I'm not going to take it today, and probably won't at all. It seems more useful at this point to take a break from this entirely and give myself a chance to sort out the information I've already gained.

I'll definitely be interested in looking at it, in a few days, if someone else wants to come up with that example and continue thinking about it here.

Comment author: MrHen 01 June 2009 06:00:18PM 0 points [-]

I would agree.

I'll definitely be interested in looking at it, in a few days, if someone else wants to come up with that example and continue thinking about it here.

I pass. The discussion of that topic would be interesting to me but writing the article is not. I have too many partial articles as it is... :P

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