Nick_Tarleton comments on Open Thread: June 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 02 June 2009 05:25:40AM 0 points [-]

D'oh. Yes, of course, that breaks it.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 02 June 2009 09:45:39PM 4 points [-]

As an aside, "waiting for Eliezer to find a loophole" probably does not constitute a safe and effective means of testing AI utility functions. This is something we want provable from first principles, not "proven" by "well, I can't think of a counterexample".

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 02 June 2009 10:01:45PM 1 point [-]

Of course, hence "...and probably complicated in some other ways that haven't occurred to me in two minutes.".

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 02 June 2009 11:00:03PM *  1 point [-]

Right. I know you realize this, and the post was fine in the context of "random discussion on the internet". However, if someone wants to actually, seriously specify a utility function for an AI any description that starts with "here's a high-level rule to avoid bad things" and then works from there looking for potential loopholes is deeply and fundamentally misguided completely independently of the rule proposed.