SoullessAutomaton comments on Open Thread: June 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 03 June 2009 01:11:25AM *  4 points [-]

It's worth noting that LW has a lower barrier to participation and a more community-centric focus, while OB has shifted to be explicitly Hanson's blog; these are clearly pursuing distinctly different goals. The simplest hypothesis is that Hanson and Yudkowsky disagreed on direction and decided to part ways.

In the About page on OB, Hanson says:

While we had a few dozen authors, most posts came from myself, Robin Hanson, and my fantastic co-blogger, Eliezer Yudkowsky. The topics eventually drifted more widely, and early in ‘09 Eliezer decided to move to a new sister blog, Less Wrong. I decided this was a good time to convert this to be my personal blog. My colleague Tyler Cowen had warned me from the start that blogs were best defined not by topic but by lead author personalities, and well, I’d learned he was right.

The phrasing here (especially the strongly complimentary reference to Eliezer) is a sort that, in my experience, often indicates a professional disagreement after which collaboration is ended, but with no real hard feelings over it and a desire to signal such to third parties. This suggests to me a lack of ulterior motives.

It does seem to be the case that the readers and commenters of LW and OB have some amount of non-overlap, but I suspect that is mostly incidental.

Comment author: AndyWood 04 June 2009 07:39:19AM 4 points [-]

I have the strong impression that Eliezer and Robin were better together. I've not yet felt that either individual blog has the same draw as the old OB.

Comment author: gwern 03 June 2009 01:43:42AM 1 point [-]

It's worth noting that LW has a lower barrier to participation and a more community-centric focus, while OB has shifted to be explicitly Hanson's blog; these are clearly pursuing distinctly different goals. The simplest hypothesis is that Hanson and Yudkowsky disagreed on direction and decided to part ways.

And why couldn't that goal have been pursued within a LW-powered OB? It's not as if there is all that much competing content, and surely we can expect further technical additions like tags. Entirely separate sites, with all the implied overhead and loss of network effects, to pursue separate goals only makes sense if the goals are contradictory.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 June 2009 03:31:27AM 3 points [-]

Robin said he was apprehensive about using new software to power his blog. It's almost as if Robin had a bad experience with over-ambitious hypertext software, at some point in his murky past...

Comment author: Z_M_Davis 03 June 2009 03:43:26AM 1 point [-]

Was that a Xanadu reference?

Comment author: gwern 03 June 2009 05:31:25PM 1 point [-]

It was; well done.