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Comment author: knb 03 June 2009 11:56:36PM 0 points [-]

I think these are all pretty good points, but I have to wonder if female rationality is very important to most male rationalists. This implies that rationalist (Rationalist?) men are very, very, different from most men in the qualities they look for in a partner.

Comment author: Psychohistorian 04 June 2009 01:45:08AM 3 points [-]

Based on my (admittedly limited) experience, one relationship-breaker is a failure to model each other's minds correctly, and, similarly, interpreting identical data in very different ways, which leads to serious communication problems. Also, along these lines is trust; it tends to be harder to trust someone if you can't predict their reaction or you expect they may react with (what you percieve as) totally disproportional emotion to a minor (as you see it) event.

Rationalists should, in theory, be somewhat better at avoiding these pitfalls, both because they think in similar ways and because they're rationalists and thus have a shared language to address these problems and some consciousness that they exist.

This may offer some explanation of why rationalists might prefer rationalist romantic partners, since it (may) increase the odds of effective communication and minimize both the frequency and magnitude of misunderstandings.

Comment author: Matt_Simpson 04 June 2009 07:34:43AM 1 point [-]

Additionally, it's nice to be with someone who realizes that disagreements are likely over differing interpretations of the same data and thus be open to other possibilities. My current girlfriend is bad at considering other possibilities, which tends to cause friction in our relationship.

Comment author: rhollerith 04 June 2009 01:20:36AM *  1 point [-]

The following comments are evidence that female rationality is important to at least some male rationalists. Note that the first comment was upvoted by 7 readers.

I know I would love to have my next girlfriend be a rationalist (if only to avoid my most recent failure mode)

http://lesswrong.com/lw/ap/of_gender_and_rationality/7me by MBlume

But she loves magical thinking, she is somewhat averse to expected-utility calculations, my atheism, etc. . . . We love each other but are scared that our differences may be too great.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/zj/open_thread_june_2009/rxy

Comment author: knb 04 June 2009 04:40:16AM 1 point [-]

I agree that rationality is a desirable feature, all else equal. But how much facial symmetry, or sexual compatibility, would male rationalists give up for an extra unit of rationality in their partners?

Perhaps this is just my personal failing, but I find that my answer is not very much.

Comment author: rhollerith 04 June 2009 10:51:17PM 1 point [-]

We differ in that respect, perhaps because I have had more time slowly to shape my emotional responses to women.