Cyan comments on Post Your Utility Function - Less Wrong

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Comment author: conchis 05 June 2009 02:57:28PM 0 points [-]

Part of the problem is the X is necessarily based in the map, not the territory.

Necessarily? If I place value on e.g. "my friends actually liking and respecting me", rather than just "the subjective sense that my friends like and respect me" then my utility function seems to be responding directly to the territory rather than the map. (It also means that I won't ever really know my utility, but that's true of lots of things.) Some people argue that things can't affect one's well-being unless one somehow experiences them, but that's a contentious position.

Am I missing your intended meaning?

Comment author: Cyan 05 June 2009 03:29:26PM *  0 points [-]

You're right -- I should have written "necessarily based in the map, not just the territory."

My intended meaning has to do with fundamental shifts in one's understanding of how reality works that make some previous apparent question of fact become a "wrong question" or category error or similar non-issue.