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Comment author: Habryka 20 February 2018 11:57:28PM 1 point [-]

Yep, I agree with this. I've learned quite a few things from the GreaterWrong design and overall think that the LW2 UI will be significantly better because of that. It's great to have a platform that experiments in a very different direction from the main site.

Comment author: EngagedAdult 20 February 2018 07:20:13PM 0 points [-]

Robots existing now - pets and toys, vacuum cleaners, military equipment and the development of private companies that will not soon be widely available. In addition, a full-fledged AI will not be seen for a long time. Although there are very interesting developments - the company Festo develops new types of robots based on living beings. Here's an interesting video about their flying robots. Video

However, unfortunately, existing copies have a huge number of problems. Humanity is still far from creating perfect machines like in Treminator or Transformers so we do not have enough strong but flexible materials, and the development of technology even in 2018 leaves much to be desired. At home pets, this is a fairly obvious dullness and limited functions. The robot cleaner has problems with orientation in the space of the room and with replacing batteries - https://bestvacuum.reviews/roomba-replacement-batteries/. In short, there is much to develop.

Comment author: saturn 19 February 2018 05:29:23PM *  4 points [-]

The two sites are based on quite different philosophies of web development, so it would be far from straightforward to do some of the things I've done within the existing LW 2.0 code. I've had fun creating GreaterWrong, and I don't mind putting effort into it as long as LW 2.0 seems like a viable community. I don't think it's necessarily bad to have two sites that do the same thing, if some people prefer one and other people prefer the other. (I agree with Error's comment.)

No, I don't have any special access to the database. If you log in to GreaterWrong, your password is briefly stored in my server's memory, only as needed to forward it to LW 2.0 and receive an authentication token back. In the future I'd like to eliminate even that, but it will require some additional complexity and changes on the LW 2.0 side.

Comment author: Error 19 February 2018 05:19:05PM 3 points [-]

Why not just make the LW2 site better, rather than make another site and have two sites that do the same thing?

A choice of clients is good for users. If an interface sucks, but multiple clients are available, you can switch to one with an interface that does not suck. If no clients have interfaces that do not suck, in principle you have the option of writing your own, which seems to be what happened here.

The best people at administering a service are not necessarily the best at programming a UI, and vice-versa. Allowing alternate clients lets you make use of comparative advantage.

Competition between clients is good for users for the same reasons it is good for customers in the market. New features are created for advantage; good ones are copied and spread. Niche preferences (especially those of power users) stand a chance of getting accounted for.

In short, multiple robust clients makes all clients better. If I may mount my hobby horse for a moment, the lack of client (and service) choice is part of why "modern" web clients still have not caught up to 90s-era newsreaders. This can only be a good thing for LW.

Why do more people need to know this particular email-password combination?

This one is a complaint I think I agree with, although the issue only affects web clients. From the LW2 thread it sounds like the author is working on it.

Comment author: LessWrong 19 February 2018 12:58:49PM *  0 points [-]

Browsed the net too much and found this. Time to weaponise dopamine. Anyone got a list of actions/objects/whatever and the amount of dopamine they produce?

Seriously now, why bother looking for the g-spot when you can just stuff two cheeseburgers down there..

Comment author: LessWrong 19 February 2018 12:52:50PM 0 points [-]

First thing first: it's nice.

My (probably irrelevant) issue with it is that.. it kind of nulls all the effort that went into LW2. It's fine to make something as a prototype and eventually replace it, but "alternative" suggests that it exists side-by-side. This kind of double-effort just seems pointless. Why not just make the LW2 site better, rather than make another site and have two sites that do the same thing?

Also, I don't think commenting with your existing account is okay. Did they just hand you over the database? That does violate consent/trust. Why do more people need to know this particular email-password combination? If I can't trust you to NOT hand over my email-password combo to literally everyone then I'll be sending EY an email with a good argument for quantum suicide,'cause seriously, if a damn email address can't be contained we might as well pack it up right now, no chance to win against an AI.

Comment author: saturn 19 February 2018 02:29:00AM 1 point [-]

Do you have plans to implement a list of posts by user (without comments), a list of drafts, and an inbox? These are the only things I go to LW2.0 for, most of my time is now spent on GW.

Yes, definitely.

Comment author: Lorien 18 February 2018 06:56:19PM 0 points [-]

A lot of optimism towards life and the future (vs old-world desire for a different, better heaven, or the Eastern desire for oblivion) comes from the fact that we are living in a golden age and, for many of those of us who have access to computers and higher learning, golden parts of the planet. For most of human history, life was proverbially nasty, brutish, and short: the shortness was a mercy. Even today, we age; we accumulate psychic injuries as we lose pets, friends, and family and as we accumulate injuries and indignities. It makes one tired, but in our golden lives we can stay proverbially awake longer because it just doesn't wear us out as fast.

We catch our breaths in nearly religious awe at those boosters because they represent a pinnacle in the things that make our lives golden: science represents real miracles to us. Our lives are objectively better than they were for our ancestors. A lot of people around the world, even now, don't have access to these benefits; if anything, the boosters and the beautiful car in space may represent to them exclusion and the bifurcation of the population. Why would they show joy? chances are high that neither they nor their children will see much of the benefit. It trickles down in first world countries to some extent, but less so the further removed one is from the epicenter of the scientific miracle.

Comment author: cousin_it 18 February 2018 03:47:44PM *  1 point [-]

Thank you! Though I like the brutalist theme even more now :-)

Do you have plans to implement a list of posts by user (without comments), a list of drafts, and an inbox? These are the only things I go to LW2.0 for, most of my time is now spent on GW.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 17 February 2018 07:54:32PM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure if this is insightful enough to share here, but I'll try anyway.

It sure is. Nice to see someone post something thought-provoking.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 17 February 2018 07:48:27PM *  0 points [-]

I think my personal extrapolated volition is wireheading, and I'm definitely in the "Ooh science, what fun" camp.

But maybe I'm not very good at extrapolating, and an AI could come up with something better. It would, for instance, be great to be in a permanent state of bliss whilst actually acting in the world. Or in some private sandbox world occupied by myself and a few hundred friends.

I can't see how those possibilities would feel any different to me from a good wireheading though. And maybe the AI is trying to conserve resources.

Comment author: ann07cor 17 February 2018 05:14:33PM 0 points [-]

I always thought about this: since the dawn of violent first person shooters, our self-appointed guardians of morality have been on a crusade to warn us of the dangers of playing video games with a little edge. According to them, if you play long enough, you’ll become desensitized to graphic scenes of death and torture, emerging from behind the console as a murderous monster ready to kill his fellow humans at a mere whim. Now, as video games are getting more and more sophisticated, there’s a renewed sense of panic. But this time, it’s not from the usual suspects. Instead it’s from a tech writer…

Of course on the human end of the question, what’s really happening here is simple scapegoating. We’re afraid of crime, we don’t really understand what motivates some of the most gruesome and violent events we have to live with, and in our fear we turn to an easily available culprit. It’s simpler to blame pop culture and games for vicious robbers and murderers than accept the fact that humans can be both very violent and very irrational, engaging in crimes for many reasons outside of our direct control..

Comment author: jmh 14 February 2018 06:11:52PM 1 point [-]

As alway some interesting views and thinking get found here. Some of the statements I think I would push back on are: The median is confused. Well, I think it would be more accurate to say EVERYONE is confused if only because we're so limited in both our knowledge and any ability to observe so much of our reality on earth. Forget the metaphysical and philosophical/religous elements. Also, when suggesting confusion about somethings as complex as "the world" I'm not entirely sure there is a good common denominator to define not confused.

I think the characterization of most religous people as above -- and I'll cast it in the worst interprestation here -- as blindly hoping something will save them from bad shit and give them good things is just wrong. I've personally known a bunch of very religous people who are as rational or more rational than most athiests I've met. And, given that we simply don't know, strict atheism (as in a rejection of the monogod concept as reality) is as much a statementof faith and any belief in such an entity. But at least the religious will own their posistion as one of faith. Too many atheists will rebell against the acusation they, in the end, are makes statement based on the faith in their logic. Now, to be fair, more than a few "ateists" are really agnostics who simply say they don't find the arugements for a god convincing and use that as their day-to-day but acept they could be wrong. Why bring up this? It goes back to the assumption about who is and is not confused about the world.

What assumptions are loaded into the overal story here?

Comment author: Val 14 February 2018 10:13:53AM 0 points [-]

I didn't say I had an answer. I only said it can be an interesting dilemma.

Comment author: Dagon 14 February 2018 12:19:20AM 0 points [-]

Do you (or we) have the ethical right to enforce current world, the majority of which is against our values (as measured by the amount of complaining, at least).

Comment author: Elo 13 February 2018 10:11:48PM 0 points [-]

Is that different to how humans are the dominant planetary species?

Comment author: Val 13 February 2018 08:54:38PM *  0 points [-]

That's true, but the change a strong AI would make would be probably completely irreversible and unmodifiable.

Comment author: Elo 13 February 2018 08:42:14PM 1 point [-]

Wouldn't be the first time that a small minority were enacting the change they wanted. The universe is not ethical or anything.

Comment author: Val 13 February 2018 07:29:51PM 0 points [-]

This brings up an interesting ethical dilemma. If strong AI will ever be possible, it will be probably designed with the values of what you described as a small minority. Does this this small minority have the ethical right to enforce a new world upon the majority which will be against their values?

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 11 February 2018 06:15:19AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, the body text is in Source Sans Pro now (seems to be more consistent across platforms[1]).

Good point about the heading weight. In the grey theme the heavy headings don't fit… I'll have to play around with different weights.

[1] "Consistent", I say, and yet I still had to specify that Firefox on Windows (yes, specifically Firefox and specifically on Windows) should get a different weight… fonts, man…

In response to Happiness Is a Chore
Comment author: bitcohen 10 February 2018 06:44:51PM *  0 points [-]

What is the likelihood that this happiness method loses power over time? I had a method for achieving happiness that worked for about two years, but eventually it just sorta petered out. bitcohen

Comment author: BentleyDavis 10 February 2018 05:42:38PM *  1 point [-]

Howdy, I've always enjoyed a good argument/debate. In 2012 I got in the middle of two friends argument about the health of being a vegetarian and decided to do my own research and settle the issue. I was disappointed that there was not an easy way to prove a point. That sent me down a rabbit hole of decision making systems and theory.

I have listened to every episode of "Rationality: From AI to Zombies". I've also researched several of the decision tools on http://lesswrong.com/lw/1qq/debate_tools_an_experience_report/

I am a software engineer and my latest experiment to build tools to help people agree is Reason Score and I would appreciate any time people have to provide feedback and debate with me on the tool.

I also work on the Pro-Truth Pledge and I am on the board of Intentional Insights which is an educational nonpartisan 501(c)(3) nonprofit devoted to promoting science-based truth-seeking, rational thinking, and wise decision-making.

I look forward to learning with you, Bentley

Comment author: g_pepper 09 February 2018 03:30:00PM 3 points [-]

There's a type of person that feels this zest, and this type is not a majority. The median person on Earth is confused by the world. They believe in things like Jesus Christ, and they press on in hope that adhering to divine guidance while they attempt to survive the trials and tribulations of life will be rewarded with not having to do this again. To such a person, the sight of two metal meteors descending from the sky with loud sonic booms, igniting engines and landing in synchrony does not necessarily inspire awe or enthusiasm as much as confusion and terror.

Were there really a lot of people in whom the SpaceX launch and the landing of the boosters inspired confusion and terror? I have not seen any of that. The reactions that I have observed have ranged all the way from disinterest to (as you put it) a palpable zest, but I have not observed anyone who felt terror or confusion.

Comment author: efenj 09 February 2018 03:23:07PM 0 points [-]

Thanks very much!

If the only thing that remained of Greater Wrong was the javascript-free access to the Less(er)Wrong homepage (I mostly disabled js in my browser in the aftermath of spectre, plus js somehow makes scrolling (sic!) on LesserWrong agonisingly slow), it would be a huge value-added for me! I also like the accesskey-based shortcuts for home, featured etc.

However, it's also a much nicer and faster interface for reading the comments and even the content!

(Testing with js enabled: no noticeable slowness; the comment navigation system is neat, though I doubt whether I'd actually use it.)

Comment author: Dustin 09 February 2018 12:45:33AM 0 points [-]

I'm not commenting to agree or disagree really, just saying something your post made me remember thinking about before...

I'm not convinced that the typical religious person has actually thought through the implications of the supposed end result of their religion. Even when confronted with the fact that wireheading or whatever is the end result, other tribal biases come into play.

Comment author: gwern 08 February 2018 10:43:09PM 0 points [-]

David Abel has provided a fairly nice summary set of notes: https://cs.brown.edu/people/dabel/blog/posts/misc/aaai_2018.pdf

Comment author: cousin_it 08 February 2018 12:28:18PM 0 points [-]

You've also changed the font, right? Somehow I can't even reproduce the old bad look by changing to Fira :-) Anyway the new look is great, thank you! My only remaining nit is that <h2> looks too heavy, e.g. in this post.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 07 February 2018 06:57:45PM 0 points [-]

I've now tested the grey theme on several different Linux machines (running debian, Mint, and KDE), in Chrome and Firefox, and am unable to reproduce that particular bug (I don't have access to an Ubuntu box at the moment, I'm afraid).

I'm given to understand that Linux has certain font rendering settings which may be adjusted—is that something you're able to try doing? (If not, I totally understand.)

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 07 February 2018 06:01:53PM 0 points [-]

FYI, I tweaked the body text size in the grey theme (and made it vary slightly according to display pixel density). Take a look—it might be a bit better for you now.

Comment author: cousin_it 06 February 2018 11:00:49PM *  1 point [-]

Yeah, it's probably about font size.

The screenshots were taken on Ubuntu + Chrome. I came home and checked on my Mac, and it seems like Fira isn't always that bad. Ubuntu just stretches it for some reason and it looks horrible, like in my "Before" screenshot. As for Concourse, I managed to make it look like my "After" screenshot on both platforms by setting -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased. But that seems brittle. So yeah, fonts are tricky and I withdraw my proposal, at least until I get ten different machines to test it :-)

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 06 February 2018 09:38:33PM *  0 points [-]

The title / post-meta styling is an improvement, I agree. As for the body test—what OS / browser / etc. is that?

Edit: I ask because, from what I've seen, Fira Sans is more readable on more platform/browser/device combinations than Concourse, as a body text font. In this case it's closer to the opposite… let me ask you this: how much of the difference between the two versions you screenshotted, for you, is made by the body text size, as distinct from the typeface per se?

Comment author: cousin_it 06 February 2018 08:06:09PM *  0 points [-]

Maybe something like this? Before, after. I'm not insisting that you use it, but it's closer to what I had in mind...

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 06 February 2018 06:15:48PM *  0 points [-]

Yeah, I totally understand your complaint. Take the following as me explaining why it (and many similar things) are done this way, and definitely not dismissing what you're saying:

Fonts are tricky.

It's hard to appreciate how tricky they are, until you try and make a website that's readable for everyone, everywhere.

Rendering bugs, for example. You get a font that looks great on a Mac—it looks terrible on Windows. You find one that looks good on Windows, it glitches out on Linux.

Then there's things that aren't "bugs" but more like "differences"—rendered font weight is different on Mac vs. Windows/Linux.

There's browser differences: Chrome and Firefox (or, more precisely, Webkit/Blink and Gecko) anti-alias letterforms differently (at least on Windows).

There's device differences: what looks good on a hi-DPI screen doesn't look so great on a lower-res screen (and vice-versa!).

Of course these things interact. (Otherwise it would be too easy, right?) Chrome on a Retina Macbook vs. Firefox on the same Macbook vs. Firefox on a Linux box vs. Safari on an iPhone vs. Safari on an iMac vs. Opera on the same iMac vs. Opera on Windows vs. Chrome on Windows vs. etc. etc. etc.—all are ever so slightly different in how they will render the very same text.

Sometimes you can correct for this. Pick a font that works best on most platforms; detect the remaining platforms, serve a different font to those. (GreaterWrong does this for the UI font—Mac and Linux users get one font, Windows users get a slightly different font. I am betting 99% of people won't ever notice or realize this… which is the point, of course; if we didn't take this additional step, then people would notice, because there'd be visible glitches.)

Often, though, you can't. (For example, there's a particular longstanding browser bug in how text renders on mobile devices (specifically having to do with hyphenation) that we can't properly fix, because there's no way to reliably detect whether any given client can or can't do that particular thing correctly. This is why the text column is left-aligned on mobile clients. The alternative would be having most users see well-formatted text, but having a large minority of users see very glitchy, hard-to-read text; this is unacceptable.)

And, as you say, some things are just subjective (at least in part; it's almost never totally subjective).

So while I absolutely try to ensure that everyone gets as close to a perfect reading experience as possible… compromises are inevitable (and I really do mean "inevitable", not "meh, too much work"; no amount of effort short of "literally be Apple or Google, and maybe not even then" would fully solve this problem).


All that having been said, though, could you tell me what sort of device/OS/browser/etc. you're viewing the site on? Every piece of user feedback helps! :)


Edited to add: Whatever corrections you make, even if we don't/can't adopt them into the "official" version of the theme, I encourage you to submit them to userstyles.org—it's likely that some other people will share your preference, and this'll make the browsing experience better for at least some of them.

Comment author: cousin_it 06 February 2018 04:34:10PM *  0 points [-]

The new place has its annoyances, but I'm having fun there. The discussion quality is similar to LW1, I received some great comments already. Instead of a main/discussion split, they let you post to the front page or to your "personal blog", so the barrier to posting is lower. The developers are reasonable, e.g. I complained to Oliver about comment links and he fixed them. Though I agree that they are too fond of the front page and it gets on my nerves too, so I just go to /daily instead.

Comment author: cousin_it 06 February 2018 03:51:46PM *  0 points [-]

Very cool, and thank you for cleaning it up!

I'm not very happy about the typeface used for body text, the longer paragraphs kinda make my eyes bleed. Arial at 1rem would look more scannable to me. But this might be subjective, and in any case I can just fix it for myself.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 06 February 2018 04:54:07AM 1 point [-]

Thanks for this—it's great! I went ahead and tweaked your modification a bit and elaborated on it, and now it's available on GW as a selectable theme (note the theme selector widget at the top-left of the page).

Any further suggestions on improving the theme are welcome! (See here for the grey-theme CSS as it currently stands.)

P.S. If anyone else wants to post or send us additional alternate themes, please do!

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 February 2018 10:34:36PM 0 points [-]

In world-class debating, sources don't matter and as a result what side of a topic a team gets at a debating tournament usually doesn't define whether the team loses or wins.

Grounding in empirical reality is important to getting policy decisions right.

Comment author: pepe_prime 04 February 2018 03:52:15PM 0 points [-]

You might want to advertise this on LesserWrong, which is somewhat officially the new site.

Comment author: DataPacRat 04 February 2018 04:48:05AM 2 points [-]

... Last Post?

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 03 February 2018 09:08:09PM 0 points [-]

Some references to lesswrong, and value alignment there.

Comment author: kialo 03 February 2018 01:31:26PM 0 points [-]

Thanks for your feed-back!

We are considering questionnaires for certain discussions, but aren't sure this would help. We do have flagging, once you have been granted discussion editor rights. Can you recommend a good quick reasoning test?

Unlike Wikipedia, not everyone can just edit a discussion. Currently you have to be invited by the discussion creators (no we haven't seen much bias due to that, as one-sided discussions look really stupid). Until you are invited you can only suggest claims, which admins have to accept. This also keeps the trolls out.

https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003791445-Suggesting-Claims

The next phase will be to have user levels and allow roaming powerusers that have writers etc rights in all public discussions. We are learning as we go. As you say, dealing with controversies is a very different game than with definitions of terms (although they are sometimes controversial too and then they might well get edit-locked)

In case you are interested, some more background info about us can be found here: https://twitter.com/KialoHQ/status/956152914720026625

And a very kind shout out by Reddit cofounder Ohanian, incl how we differentiate ourselves to Reddit here: https://twitter.com/KialoHQ/status/954500647835054080

We agree that the voting and displaying of avg is not ideal and will probably introduce perspective tagging.

Msg support if you want private teams / portals, for decision-making etc..

We know we got a long arduous journey ahead of us...

Comment author: kialo 03 February 2018 01:13:50PM 0 points [-]

An argument might also be deductive in nature and might very well not need sources. In other cases there are claims where sources might not add anything to a claims veracity/relevance, e.g. sources to pro homeopathy sites. It's the what are good sources problem...

Kialo's aim is to have viewpoint diversity and to also engage with the bad claims, which indeed might be very popular.

You are able to switch between perspectives and see how different people reason and vote the claims. We will release persona tagging to show aggregates of this. The avg being shown today isn't ideal.

We'd agree, that we still have to improve the displaying of the "results" of a discussion. One step at a time, currently we are improving the "capturing" of discussions and are revamping the whole suggestion system, to allow for better bidirectional communication: https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003791445-Suggesting-Claims

Comment author: kialo 03 February 2018 01:05:59PM 0 points [-]

Click on new, there you will see all new discussions. The discussions on the explore page are ongoing, we are thinking of revamping the whole portal though. You can also click on tags and play around with the sorting, by default we show the discussions with the most recent activity.

Comment author: cousin_it 03 February 2018 12:13:22AM *  1 point [-]

I was a bit bothered by the noisy look of the front page, so I took a shot at restyling it: screenshot, pastebin. Not insisting that you should use it (I'm using it as a browser stylesheet anyway) but just thought I'd share.

Edit: whoops, this affects other pages in surprising ways. I'll try to fix it tomorrow.

Comment author: Amanojack 02 February 2018 06:06:26PM *  0 points [-]

This is just a manifestation of the general fact that it is impossible to specify a hypothetical fully without telling the entire story of how things got that way from the dawn of time. Speaking of hypotheticals is thus inherently loose. There is no way to avoid fallacies in most such exercises. Feigning rigor by calling specific cases "fallacies" is pretention.

It isn't just difficult to avoid these errors; it's impossible, and relegates the exercise to the merely cautiously suggestive, not a central method of philosophy.

Comment author: saturn 02 February 2018 09:55:12AM 0 points [-]

Parts of it, anyway.

Comment author: saturn 02 February 2018 09:54:39AM 2 points [-]

It would be nice to have more than just a single page of 'new' content, since as is, it can even be hard to check out all recent posts from the past few days [...] more of a user's posting and commenting history

Done :)

Comment author: riceissa 02 February 2018 08:41:16AM 0 points [-]

do we have any statistics about it?

For sessions and pageviews from Google Analytics, I wrote a post about it in April 2017. Since you mention scraping, perhaps you mean something like post and comment counts; if so, I'm not aware of any statistics about that.

Wei Dai has a web service to retrieve all posts and comments of particular users that I find useful (not sure if you will find it useful for gathering statistics, but I thought I would mention it just in case).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 February 2018 08:26:53AM 5 points [-]

I was very fond of this site. There were excellent essays, and the discussion structure suited me very well. I'm more of a short form writer. Also, the way it was easy to find old material and conveniently add to old threads is a feature that ssc doesn't have.

The big block of unchanging recommendations at the top of LW2 gets on my nerves.

This being said, the resident troll squeezed a lot of the fun out of LW1, and getting to be moderator-- and then discovering I didn't have adequate moderation tools-- gave me something of an ugh field about the place. And now it's over. It was good when it was good.

Comment author: whpearson 01 February 2018 09:38:56PM 0 points [-]

FWIW lesswrong has rarely felt like a comfortable place for me. Not sure why. Maybe I missed the fandom stage.

I did have a laugh now and again back in the day. Even then I think I came here for the "taking ideas seriously" thing that rationalists can do, than for the community.

Comment author: Elo 01 February 2018 08:26:49PM 0 points [-]

There is detailed google analytics going back a while.

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Comment author: LessWrong 01 February 2018 10:23:07AM 1 point [-]

When exactly did that happen? I haven't been here when the site was "highly active" (which I assume when EY was making the sequences posts) but do we have any statistics about it? I could build a small scraper and make a graph for dates and stuff, but somebody with access to the database could do it much better.

I don't remember ever seeing statistics on that.

Comment author: LessWrong 01 February 2018 10:02:24AM *  3 points [-]

Confession thread. I've been in love with LessWrong for about 5 years (my first post was this, found on 4chan. Maybe it isn't exceptional but it always had a place in my heart. In fact, it gave me the courage to get my first job when I was scared of being outside) and I've never admitted it. Now that it's about to go boom I can finally confess that, even though I've been a horrible student. Take that, LW2, you'll never be as awesome.

NEWSFLASH: HPMOR chapter 123 released: Something to protect: Less Wrong.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 01 February 2018 02:50:20AM 1 point [-]

Eric Weinstein argues strongly against returns being 20century level, and says they are now vector fields, not scalars. I concur (not that I matter)

Comment author: LessWrong 30 January 2018 09:52:22PM *  1 point [-]

Excellent job. You got bonus points for writing it in Lisp. I assume you've read SICP?

Comment author: chowfan 30 January 2018 08:44:30PM *  0 points [-]

If the moderator had enough voting power or stake, then it would be a pure prediction market. The decision could be the final voting results. Maybe some mechanism can be designed to ensure the early voters get some profits if the vote is the same as the final voting result. If an incident happens and the other side increase substantially because of it, the final results can also be reversed.

Comment author: username2 30 January 2018 04:55:25PM 1 point [-]

I have become very used to the interface here and the various ways it can be manipulated, so I prefer it greatly even if this is just due to inertia. Glad to see more than 6 names on the Last 30 Days list. But it's clear that this is a dead zone and I've become resigned to the idea that this will soon be gone.

I do enjoy what's going on at LW2 even though it's still open beta, a bit broken in a few areas and cluttered by too many specific requests and follow-up about personal preferences for site look and feel. And moderator chat that really feels like it can be kept behind closed doors -- I hope this is just a feature of beta that will be ironed out. And I fully applaud the approach to trolls (so far anyway).

Overall it's fun to see people jockeying for the position of Next Great Poster Who Will Lead Us From Darkness, especially those who aren't trying to copy Previous Heroes. Some falling terribly short but it's interesting to see the variety of voices. It does not seem to be heading to an obvious local minimum, something I worried about in the early days of LW2.0. Maybe a few local minima but that's fine with me.

Comment author: username2 30 January 2018 04:48:58PM 2 points [-]

Thank you very much. I read LW primarily for the discussions that are spurred by posts/articles and the comments are effectively impossible for me to read with the standard interface. On a small glance/browse I'm very encouraged about trying Greaterwrong as my regular reading mode.

Comment author: cousin_it 30 January 2018 01:01:08PM *  0 points [-]

Thank you for doing this!

Comment author: cousin_it 29 January 2018 11:34:12PM *  4 points [-]

I just spent the last few days rereading old posts and comments, reminiscing about how much fun we had as a fandom. Then we tried to turn into a goal-based community, but it turns out social connections arise from having a common focus of emotion, not from hard work.

Comment author: bogus 29 January 2018 08:37:35PM *  0 points [-]

Thanks for adding this, then! Personally, I'm just waiting to create an account/log in there until the 'final' LW-importation goes through. (Users who were late setting the e-mails to their accounts here did not have these imported to LW2 initially, which can lead to all sorts of problems. But a new importation from LW's updated user list can fix this - or maybe it can't, but then there's no loss in just creating a new user!)

It would be nice to have more than just a single page of 'new' content, since as is, it can even be hard to check out all recent posts from the past few days, or whatever. It's great that the archive is available though. (Similarly, it would be great if we could access more of a user's posting and commenting history directly from their user page. On LW and LW2, you can see everything that a user has posted to the site simply by browsing from the userpage, and many LW users do rely on this feature as a de-facto 'index' of what they've contributed here.)

Comment author: saturn 29 January 2018 07:08:02PM *  4 points [-]

Hi, I'm the one who created Greater Wrong. I'm intending to announce it more widely once it doesn't have so many conspicuously missing features, but it's something I'm working on in my spare time so progress is somewhat gradual. You can, however, already log in and post comments. You can use your existing LW 2.0 username/password or create a new one. Let me know if you have any problems.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 January 2018 04:12:29PM 1 point [-]

It seems like a personal message sent to me on the new website got lost.

At the beginning, the speed was too low but now it's a lot better.

Getting notifcation to replies to your post doesn't yet work and I think that's the last thing that has to be done to make the new website a clear improvement above the existing version.

Comment author: bogus 29 January 2018 03:44:07PM 5 points [-]

There is an alternative interface to the new site at Greater Wrong. It has a few problems (namely, it's hard to access archived content; all you get is a day to day listing of posts) but compared to Lesser Wrong it's at least usable. LW2 should support it officially in addition to the Lesser Wrong website, and perhaps even add features like logging in and posting content through it.

Comment author: Thomas 29 January 2018 09:08:39AM 0 points [-]

I tend to agree. I don't know is it just a habit or something else, like a conservative profile of myself and many others, but that doesn't really matter.

The new site isn't that much better. Should be substantially better than this one for a smooth transition.

Comment author: LessWrong 28 January 2018 10:49:55PM *  12 points [-]

Old site love thread.

Just curious how many people like, and possibly even prefer, the old site.

I'd also like to know if anyone else has terrible experience with site redesigns. They always, for some reason, end up terrible. Likelyhood of bias: 60%.

Comment author: Elo 28 January 2018 01:51:35AM 0 points [-]

welcome! You might like to hang out on the soon-to-be-merged new site - http://www.lesserwrong.com

This site is inactive.

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