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komponisto comments on Vanity and Ambition in Mathematics - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: komponisto 13 October 2010 10:00:56PM *  1 point [-]

I interpret the above quotations (and many others by similar such people) to point to a markedly lower than usual interest in status. As JoshuaZ points out, one could instead read the quotations as counter-signaling, but such an interpretation feels like a stretch to me. I doubt that in practice such remarks serve as an effective counter-signal.

There is however a third alternative: noblesse oblige (fake) humility. Part of the standard role of a high-status person is to "show kindness toward their loyal subjects" (this is the "Gandalf" quality that Eliezer disdains). This differs from countersignaling in that it doesn't involve mimicking low-status behavior. (An appropriate analogue might be the very richest people starting philanthropic foundations -- this is different from both conspicuous consumption and dressing like poor people.)