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0 Post author: b1shop 03 February 2011 01:47AM

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Comment author: b1shop 03 February 2011 02:31:44AM 0 points [-]

You're right about the first part. I'll fix it when I get to a real computer.

Since we observed humanity surviving, I think it's alright to use a more specific reference class. If the anthropic principle holds for life in general, then it also holds for just JoshuaZ, right?

No matter what p(S) is, p(S|MW) is larger.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 03 February 2011 02:33:54AM *  1 point [-]

Yes, but I don't know how much larger. So claiming that one should update "radically upwards" is questionable without a lot more of an idea how much and what sorts of life we should expect.

Comment author: b1shop 03 February 2011 02:53:42AM 0 points [-]

If you make the case that p(S) should include any life, then I can concede the adverb perhaps shouldn't be so dramatic. Are we in agreement that it would be dramatic if we only included humanity exactly like us? If so, I'd like a second opinion from others if a specific anthropic principle is allowed, because it seems reasonable to me.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 03 February 2011 02:58:50AM 1 point [-]

. Are we in agreement that it would be dramatic if we only included humanity exactly like us? I

Yes, because there are times in the history of humanity where we got close to being wiped out (the Toba event being possibly the best documented).

I'd like a second opinion from others if a specific anthropic principle is allowed, because it seems reasonable to me.

I'd be very curious if anyone else agrees with you there. I don't understand the basis for such a specific reference class, since every intelligent species that thinks about MWI will be in the same position.