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NihilCredo comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 6 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: NihilCredo 27 November 2010 09:57:20PM 5 points [-]

Shouldn't this effect happen in MoR as well?

During the Christmas break, Quirrellmort was able to get as far as the Verres-Evans garden, so if the protection is in place it extends at most to the physical walls of the house, which isn't much - first, because Harry isn't likely to stay secluded (and even if he swears to do so, his parents won't, and while outside of Dumbledore's authority he is susceptible to blackmail), and second, because there are probably sufficiently creative solutions to that little snafu (hijack and crash an airplane on the house? I doubt the Power of Love super-enchantment turned the building into an adamantium-darksteel nuclear bunker).

Comment author: TobyBartels 28 November 2010 03:13:49AM 2 points [-]

During the Christmas break, Quirrellmort was able to get as far as the Verres-Evans garden, so if the protection is in place it extends at most to the physical walls of the house, which isn't much

In canon, it certainly doesn't extend to Harry's wandering about on the streets, which is a huge hole in the protection (making it necessary for the OotP to tail him whenever he leaves the house).

Comment author: alethiophile 27 November 2010 10:46:37PM 2 points [-]

In general, canon wizards completely neglect Muggle artifacts when making their plans. canon!Voldemort could have done that at any time, enchantment or no. So it might just be a function of this Dumbledore not being stupid. (Of course, in this instance he thinks the pertinent threat is Harry being kidnapped for his blood, not killed, so there's a different threat model there.)

Comment author: DanArmak 27 November 2010 11:31:11PM 2 points [-]

No-one's said the blood has to be taken from his living body, though.

Comment author: alethiophile 28 November 2010 02:36:11AM 2 points [-]

True. What are the constraints on that sort of thing? If it were feasible to do so, would getting a DNA sample and cloning the requisite amount of blood work? (Or whatever you would do to generate blood. It probably involves marrow cells somehow.) Does there have to be some sort of connection between the blood and him? Does he have to be alive, or present, during the ritual?

Comment author: TobyBartels 28 November 2010 03:12:38AM 1 point [-]

You would need Harry's stem cells, presumably from his marrow. Even with those, I doubt that Voldemort has access to the necessary technology, especially in 1991.

Comment author: DanArmak 28 November 2010 10:29:58AM 0 points [-]

Oh, he would do it by magic.