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alethiophile comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 6 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: alethiophile 29 November 2010 06:00:06AM 2 points [-]

Dumbledore refers to Moody's eye as the Eye of Vance, and says that 'if the Eye of Vance does not see a thing, it does not exist' (or some such). Does this mean that Eliezer has decided to go with the 'more specific artifact' reading of his dichotomy in an earlier AN? (Discussing the power of the Cloak, and how in canon Moody's eye can see through it.)

Also, is it significant that one of the Aurors in the response team is named Emmeline Vance?

Comment author: Randaly 29 November 2010 07:19:40AM *  5 points [-]

I don't think the name's significant- it's taken from canon, and the Eye of Vance is a shoutout to Jack Vance's The Eyes of the Overworld.

Comment author: alethiophile 30 November 2010 04:04:30AM 3 points [-]

Question answered by Chapter 63. If Eliezer can work a connection between the Eye of Vance and Emmeline Vance (that's more interesting than 'old ancestor made it'), it would be awesome.

Comment author: Aharon 29 November 2010 05:59:38PM 3 points [-]

I thought it was a reference to the D&D Eye of Vecna, especially after the left leg of Vance was mentioned (Vecna is a powerful D&D villain who left behind an eye and a hand, and if - as expected - somebody tries to get both and succeeds, something bad happens, although I don't remember what exactly).

Comment author: Broggly 05 January 2011 08:15:03AM 5 points [-]

Then of course, there's the fabled Head of Vecna.

http://www.blindpanic.com/humor/vecna.htm

After losing one player to decapitation, they quickly realised their mistake: they hadn't attatched the new head fast enough.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 29 November 2010 06:49:48PM 4 points [-]

Yes, that's what it is referencing, but there's another level of reference, "Vecna" was an anagram of "Vance" the last name of writer "Jack Vance" whose magic system influenced D&D magic. So Eliezer has used the unanagrammed version.

Comment author: TobyBartels 29 November 2010 06:37:54AM 2 points [-]

The Eye of Vance! (not serious)