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Comment author: David_Gerard 06 December 2010 02:33:13PM *  4 points [-]

And I'll start things off with a question I couldn't find a place for or a post for.

Coherent extrapolated volition. That 2004 paper sets out what it would be and why we want it, in the broadest outlines.

Has there been any progress on making this concept any more concrete since 2004? How to work out a CEV? Or even one person's EV? I couldn't find anything.

I'm interested because it's an idea with obvious application even if the intelligence doing the calculation is human.

On the topic of CEV: the Wikipedia article only has primary sources and needs third-party ones.

Comment author: nazgulnarsil 06 December 2010 03:15:50PM *  2 points [-]

even if it comes out perfect hanson will just say that it's based on far mode thinking and is thus incoherent WRT near values :p

what sort of person would I be if I was getting enough food, sex and sleep (the source of which was secure) to allow me to stay in far mode all the time? I have no idea.

Comment author: David_Gerard 06 December 2010 03:23:23PM *  4 points [-]

A happily married (or equivalent) one? I am cosy in domesticity but also have a small child to divert my immediate energies, and I find myself regarding raising her as my important work and everything else as either part of that or amusement. Thankfully it appears raising a child requires less focused effort than ideal-minded parents seem to think (I can't find the study quickly, sorry - anyone?), so this allows me to sit on the couch working or reading stuff while she plays, occasionally tweaking her flow of interesting stuff and occasionally dealing with her coming over and jumping up and down on me.

Comment author: nazgulnarsil 06 December 2010 03:28:09PM 0 points [-]

well you should be working on CEV and I shouldn't.

Comment author: David_Gerard 06 December 2010 03:28:59PM 0 points [-]

Hence the question ;-)

Comment author: wedrifid 07 December 2010 08:28:57PM 3 points [-]

what sort of person would I be if I was getting enough food, sex and sleep (the source of which was secure) to allow me to stay in far mode all the time?

Bad in bed, for a start. In far mode all the time?