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Marius comments on Many of us *are* hit with a baseball once a month. - Less Wrong Discussion

39 Post author: Alexandros 22 December 2010 05:56PM

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Comment author: Marius 28 December 2010 05:17:16AM 1 point [-]

Punishments are supposed to be rehabilitative.

The thinking today has evolved somewhat, away from thinking the pain of childbirth is a punishment. Yet there is still a widespread tendency (including amongst nonreligious people) to claim that a painful childbirth is a natural childbirth, and to overemphasize and invent dangers of epidurals.

Comment author: Strange7 17 February 2011 04:10:53PM 0 points [-]

The idea of rehabilitation is relatively recent. Punishment is just a disincentive: people who do X get hurt, so don't do X or you'll get hurt.

Comment author: Marius 17 February 2011 05:31:14PM 1 point [-]

Both recent and ancient; people have gone back and forth between rehabilitation/disincentive as punishment's goals for millennia. Look at confession/penance and the theologic justifications for that. Various penalties described in Ancient Rome and the Old Testament filled either or both those roles. We've had phrases like "teach him a lesson," "now, this is for your own good," and "spare the rod, spoil the child" for quite some time.