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PlaidX comments on An Abortion Dialogue - Less Wrong Discussion

10 Post author: gwern 12 February 2011 01:20AM

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Comment author: PlaidX 12 February 2011 06:22:13AM 12 points [-]

Let me turn your question around. If your utility function puts value in the mere existence of people, regardless of how they interact with the larger world, doesn't that mean having babies is as wonderful as killing people is terrible? Is somebody with 12 kids a hero?

Comment author: Pfft 13 February 2011 05:52:58PM 12 points [-]

Is somebody with 12 kids a hero?

Or a serial killer with a large family? "Sure he might have killed 3 people -- but he's a father of 5!"

Comment author: [deleted] 13 February 2011 06:50:24AM *  0 points [-]

I'm actually pretty sure some people who have had 12 kids are heroes or at least very altruistic when objectively analysed.

Many many people that made great contributions have come from large families of overachievers. Genetics and upbringing matter a lot. And productivity gains made by lets say 6 of the kids can easily overshadow anything that one individual could have done (even when adjusted for the fact that the kids start contributing later).

However overall if we look at the world today, the vast majority of people having 12 kids aren't heroes.