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Comment author: Dorikka 20 February 2011 04:29:29PM 0 points [-]

Are you talking about "assigning everyone's welfare equal utility" utilitarianism or "models one's world-state preferences and subjective preferences using a utility function?" I think that you could be the latter and a complete egoist at the same time. (I am the latter, not the former.)

Comment author: wedrifid 20 February 2011 05:25:49PM 2 points [-]

As tim pointed out, 'the latter' just isn't utilitarianism. It is a different brand of consequentialism. Utilitarianism itself is a mixture of obviously stupid and kind of evil (to the extent that it is taken seriously).

Comment author: timtyler 20 February 2011 05:19:23PM *  1 point [-]

"assigning everyone's welfare equal utility" utilitarianism

That is what the dictionary says "utilitarianism" means. See the "summed among all sentient beings" bit.

or "models one's world-state preferences and subjective preferences using a utility function?"

It would be nice if "utilitarianism" meant that - but it usually doesn't.

We have to call that sort of system "utility-based" at the moment. Come the revolution...

Comment author: rhollerith_dot_com 22 February 2011 09:11:57AM *  1 point [-]

or "models one's world-state preferences and subjective preferences using a utility function?

Many around here would call that "consequentialism".

Comment author: Dorikka 21 February 2011 02:37:15AM 0 points [-]

Mmkay; I yield to the dictionary.