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NancyLebovitz comments on Are You a Paralyzed Subordinate Monkey? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 March 2011 08:36:58AM *  8 points [-]

I don't have the baseline to evaluate it, but I consider Gatto's claim that conventional schooling has caused people to have less initiative to be at least plausible-- this might be a more recent cultural problem rather than something from the ancestral environment.

I'm inclined to think that the idea (which I've heard from more than one source) that a fundamental purpose of education is to teach children to do things they don't want to do. While it's necessary for a good life to be able to override some impulses, I believe it's also crucial to teach children how to do things they do want to do, or at least not crush too much motivation.

Again heard from more than one source-- children are lose a lot of curiosity and enthusiasm by third grade.

Comment author: CronoDAS 04 March 2011 09:38:34PM *  3 points [-]

I'm inclined to think that the idea (which I've heard from more than one source) that a fundamental purpose of education is to teach children to do things they don't want to do.

I'm 28 years old and still haven't learned this.

Everyone will tell you to stand up for yourself, but nobody wants you to stand up to them.