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David_Allen comments on Are You a Paralyzed Subordinate Monkey? - Less Wrong Discussion

26 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 March 2011 09:12PM

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Comment author: David_Allen 03 March 2011 01:56:35PM 6 points [-]

By default no one does work unless someone explicitly tells them to.

I suspect that this is largely cultural; a response based on expectations, examples and training.

Comment author: Bo102010 04 March 2011 01:16:55AM 3 points [-]

I think Eliezer's point is that it could be evolutionary and not cultural.

The interesting thing is that you can become a leader by just telling people to do stuff, and then they comply.

Comment author: David_Allen 04 March 2011 02:11:00PM 2 points [-]

I can't say much about the monkey tribe example that Eliezer quoted -- for example I don't know if it is true or if it implies anything about human evolution -- but I have found that people are remarkably adaptable with cultural conditioning.

I would also like to point out that there is a difference between people doing what you tell them and people only working if you explicitly tell them to; it is possible for people to be receptive to commands and yet be self directed. My current work environment is full of examples.

Comment author: DanArmak 04 March 2011 09:27:10AM 1 point [-]

If true, that still tells us very little about whether the evolutionary approach could be overridden by a cultural one.