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Comment author: Strange7 18 April 2011 12:41:48AM 4 points [-]

Some famous misogynist, I can’t remember which one, is on record as saying that feminism is about giving unattractive women more power in society (even leaving aside its massive misread on feminism, this statement assumes that unattractive women don’t deserve any power in society, which is obviously fucked up).

The statement could be more charitably interpreted as meaning that feminism is about bringing the majority of women (who are not exceptionally attractive, by logical necessity from the definition of 'exceptional') up to the same level as the majority of men, with the caveat that exceptionally attractive people have no shortage of power in society regardless of their gender. That is, giving women inroads to power which depend primarily on hard work rather than a genetic lottery.

Comment author: nthmost 20 October 2011 11:34:07PM 1 point [-]

Attractive women in present society may have more power than less-attractive women, but they're at no less of an economic disadvantage in the final breakdown of how much pay each gender receives for equal work. Women are also judged far more harshly when their looks fade than are men.

It does seem like exceptionally attractive women have a lot of power, but their opportunities are corralled by their looks as well. They are more likely to be seen as sex objects ahead of any other capacities they may have.

Comment author: Strange7 23 October 2011 09:33:25PM 7 points [-]

how much pay each gender receives for equal work.

Actually it's my understanding that, among professionals who never marry or have children, men and women are paid equally.

Comment author: therufs 19 September 2013 01:27:26PM 0 points [-]

Well, what about men and women who do marry and have children?

Comment author: Strange7 12 November 2013 10:02:50PM 3 points [-]

Women end up being paid less, to a degree which various feminist organizations will gladly research and calculate. The question is, does that correspond to a problem with the labor market, or with institutions related to marriage and childcare?