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Vladimir_M comments on [LINK] Ethical Pick-Up Artistry (Clarisse Thorn) - Less Wrong Discussion

16 Post author: KenChen 07 April 2011 06:34PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_M 08 April 2011 07:59:45AM *  11 points [-]

Trouble is, most of what you write is extended far beyond what's written in the original list, or it's equally vague and thus of no practical use.

Take for example your advice to "start flirting." (Which, by the way, it would be quite a stretch to see as an interpretation of the original point five, except insofar as it's vague and allegoric enough to mean anything you want to see in it.) For a man who is socially inept, or even just clueless about women, flirting is like differential equations for someone who is stumped by basic algebra -- and useful and systematic learning materials to remedy this situation can be found only you-know-where.

On all other points, you similarly extend and reinterpret the original statements creatively and liberally, but even so, the advice you give falls far short of practical usefulness. Insofar as your advice makes sense, the only men who are able to imagine some concrete and workable ideas for action based on it are those who already understand these issues well enough that they don't even need it. For those who actually have such problems, much more concrete, detailed, and practical guidance is needed, and again, I know of only one sort of venues that offer it. (And in fact, at a few places where your advice approaches something resembling useful guidelines, it says basically the same things you'll read there.)