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Alicorn comments on Rationality Exercise: My Little Pony - Less Wrong Discussion

13 Post author: magfrump 13 May 2011 02:13AM

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Comment author: Alicorn 13 May 2011 02:31:01AM 4 points [-]

I don't think the phenomenon as described admits of deliberately causing Pinkie's tail to twitch. The idea is that when her tail twitches, something is about to fall, not when something is about to fall, her tail twitches.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 15 May 2011 01:55:30AM *  5 points [-]

One way to look at is that currently we only have data on the correlation between her tail twitches and falling objects, but not on the causation involved.

Given this we have two scenarios "Something about her tail twitches causes things to fall" or "Items falling can cause her tail to twitch in the past."

The first option is actually more consistent with the known physics of the world, as it doesn't require anything thought to be impossible like precognition or backwards causation. And it would fit pretty closely to the known phenomena of ponies using magic, often involving them moving their bodies, to move distant objects. So it is plausible she is performing subconscious magic.

Comment author: Pavitra 16 May 2011 10:26:41PM -1 points [-]

Ponies in the show can generally be divided into unicorn-pegasus princesses, unicorns, pegasi, and "earth ponies" who have neither horns nor wings. Pinkie Pie is an earth pony. If Pinkie Sense is magic, it would be the only known instance of an earth pony performing magic.

Comment author: magfrump 14 May 2011 11:59:32PM 2 points [-]

I agree that this might cause difficulty in testing, however I suspect it could be done via, say, letting the cutie mark crusaders try to harvest all the apples in Applejack's orchard. Lots of things would be falling in presumably dangerous and unpredictable (and thus tail-twitch-inducing) ways.

Of course, what algorithms work to induce twitching is the first thing to be studied in any case.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 13 May 2011 08:27:13AM 0 points [-]

But given the base rates of tail-twitches and falling objects ...

(I just watched the first episode of this show. I'm not sure why I'm impressed with it ....)