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David_Gerard comments on Should I be afraid of GMOs? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: David_Gerard 19 May 2011 06:18:33AM 13 points [-]

One of the big problems (frequently raised by objectors, pretty much ignored by supporters) is that the purpose of GMOs is so Monsanto can have a plant they own, rather than because the plant is a good idea per se. This may not be a great idea.

Comment author: Chala 20 May 2011 02:33:15AM 3 points [-]

Yeah but remember, there will always be a limit to the price they can charge for the GMO - and that will be determined by the cost of the wild type and the productivity different between the two. Thus Mosanto will only be able to sell it if it is worthwile for the farmers! Also, patents do expire eventually.

Comment author: jsalvatier 24 May 2011 07:18:54PM *  2 points [-]

I've heard this before, but haven't seen such points respond to the (to me) super obvious point that IP protected GMOs have plenty of competition (natural crops) so they can only generate profits on their improvement. One response I can think of is the optimal length of IP rights varies from field to field and is not necessarily long (link). Do you have a link to intelligent discussion of such issues?

I get the impression this objection is raised mainly because people react negatively to ownership over things which are not typically owned rather than a specific technical argument for why it's a bad idea. This has lead me not to pay much attention to such arguments, but I'd be interested to hear more detailed arguments if you think there is more substance there.

Comment author: Duke 20 May 2011 05:48:59AM *  1 point [-]

The claim that "the purpose of GMOs is so Monsanto can have a plant they own.." is false. One tiny aspect of GMOs which objectors constantly harp on is Monsanto's business model.

Comment author: rysade 21 May 2011 02:01:26AM 1 point [-]

Considering David Gerard has a very upvoted comment, I'd be interested in hearing more about your objections to his comment.

Comment author: Duke 22 May 2011 01:08:50AM 1 point [-]

GMO tech is used for a broad set of purposes and on a broad set of organisms. Monsanto uses GMO tech for specific purposes (firstly, to profit) on specific organisms. I don't see why this is a big problem for GMO tech even if there is an ethical breach by Monsanto.

Comment author: rysade 22 May 2011 08:53:17PM 1 point [-]

Sorry, it was my crime against specificity that led to this, but what is your reason for rejecting the statement

the purpose of GMOs is so Monsanto can have a plant they own.

as false?