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Pavitra comments on General Bitcoin discussion thread (June 2011) - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Pavitra 16 June 2011 04:36:42AM 0 points [-]

You seem, then, to be arguing that the behavior of our currency has an importantly different kind of effect on the overall economy than the behavior of any other asset.

...on reflection, I think that's actually right. Under hyperinflation, people tend to run around with wheelbarrows of banknotes rather than reverting to barter. I'll have to think about it some more.

Nevertheless, I would expect the effects of currency deflation to be limited or mitigated by the fact that you eventually have to buy food.

Comment author: jhuffman 06 January 2012 10:43:17PM 1 point [-]

Under hyperinflation, people tend to run around with wheelbarrows of banknotes rather than reverting to barter. I'll have to think about it some more.

Hyperinflation only happens precisely because people have less and less interest in wheelbarrows full of bank notes. The reason it feeds on itself is that people desperately want to turn their notes into real goods or exchange for more stable currencies. That lowers the value of the notes even further since there are more notes chasing the same amount of desirable goods.

I'm not sure a hyper-deflation can really happen. What would that look like, merchants lining up outside my house trying to sell me another Blueray player for increasingly small fractions of a coin?

If no one wants to spend this money, can it really retain value for very long? I'm genuinely perplexed.

Comment author: Pavitra 09 January 2012 07:57:33AM 0 points [-]

I think a key factor is that humans don't actually behave as rational utility-maximizing agents. Most people will treat the value of an asset as being approximately its current market spot price, and only slightly adjust in the direction of what they expect its long-term value to be.

I wouldn't expect merchants to line up outside your house, but their websites might list prices like "Blueray player -- 3.89 millicoins".

Comment author: jhuffman 09 January 2012 03:28:46PM 1 point [-]

The price itself doesn't indicate hyper-deflation. That price could be the product of years of single digit deflation. Hyper-deflation I think can only happen if there is a run on most real goods - where people are literally in a panic to exchange their goods for rapidly decreasing numbers of bitcoins. Otherwise how would it feed on itself the way hyper-inflation does?

Comment author: Pavitra 13 January 2012 12:18:22AM 0 points [-]

Unfortunately I don't know enough economics to sustain this discussion past this point, so I'm going to refrain from further making things up. I assume you have a good question, and I recommend you put it to someone who can answer it.