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Armok_GoB comments on Influence = Manipulation - Less Wrong Discussion

2 Post author: Barry_Cotter 14 June 2011 05:47PM

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Comment author: Armok_GoB 15 June 2011 12:11:16PM 2 points [-]

Ok, that's scary... O_o

Not remotely as scary as a whole lot of other things that are also real and I know about. But still pretty scary.

And the thing you mentioned where they try to cooperate dosn't sound like it'd work very well, more like it'd just introduce even further vulnerabilities at least once you take it into account. But maybe it turns out more effective in practice.

Comment author: MixedNuts 02 August 2011 03:59:02PM 2 points [-]

Update: I've been playing around a bit with prisoner's dilemma simulations (not particularly ruthless ones). If nice retaliating strategies (like tit-for-tat) rise fast enough, then patches of unconditional cooperation can survive by leaning on them and each other. So it seems to works. My simulation wasn't particularly ruthless, though.