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Comment author: Will_Newsome 17 June 2011 03:30:26AM 0 points [-]

Huh, I just realized that Socially Awkward Penguin has an unexpected benefit. I can remember instances of when I totally didn't understand why people would act a certain way, then remember a point at which I'd either explicitly or intuitively grokked it. For, example: "Make joke, no one laughs. Friend repeats joke--greatest joke ever told in the history of comedy." (One of my close friends was the future homecoming king at a big high school.) It's weird to think that I didn't understand why that would be the default expectation until I was almost 17.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 17 June 2011 08:37:54AM 1 point [-]

For, example: "Make joke, no one laughs. Friend repeats joke--greatest joke ever told in the history of comedy." (One of my close friends was the future homecoming king at a big high school.) It's weird to think that I didn't understand why that would be the default expectation until I was almost 17.

I don't get it. I've never experienced a situation like that.

Comment author: Raw_Power 17 June 2011 01:55:44PM 2 points [-]

It comes down to eloquence and timing. Surprisingly enough, the skills needed for stand-up comedy are completely different from those used in a group or in a one-on-one discussion. I'm very successful at the former and the latter, but I suck at the one in the middle.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 18 June 2011 12:17:27AM 0 points [-]

Raw_Power's explanation is some of it, but also, if a person who is really high status says something in a voice that's inflected as if it were a joke, then it automatically becomes hilarious and people have to laugh. I was very weird and lower status than many people I randomly met up with at the mall (because I was with my super high status friend) and so when I made a joke, no one would laugh, even though they would laugh a lot when he repeated it later. It's not entirely that my delivery was bad, I think it was largely a result of status differentials.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 18 June 2011 07:51:46AM 0 points [-]

Ah. That sounds right.

Comment author: Raw_Power 18 June 2011 02:08:39AM 0 points [-]

My god you have put your finger on something big here...

Even though Lord Hamster never laughs at Tool Stanley's Jokes...