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23 Post author: Raw_Power 17 June 2011 12:52AM

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Comment author: Gabriel 19 June 2011 10:50:07AM 2 points [-]

Is doing that kind of things absolutely neccessary for maintaining your indifference? It sounds like people caught up in your jokes might not enjoy them. And didn't you ever get in trouble for acting like that, for example by getting challenged, physically assaulted, thrown out, fired, etc.?

Comment author: AmagicalFishy 19 June 2011 05:32:43PM *  0 points [-]

Nope. I'm trying to find a way to consolidate both of our mindsets on the matter. Anyone who would "challenge", physically assault, etc. me because I made them (or someone) feel a bit uncomfortable for a couple of moments, I think, might be blowing things way out of proportion. That seems unreasonable to me, the inability to deal with a little discomfort.

The only thing I can think of is that there's the idea that the only way I interact with people is by doing these strange things? If that is the case—it's not true, and I can see where others wouldn't want someone who always makes them feel uncomfortable around.

Comment author: Raw_Power 21 June 2011 02:19:13AM 2 points [-]

That seems unreasonable to me, the inability to deal with a little discomfort.

Why? Why should people tolerate you inflicting discomfort on them, regardless of how often or how nastily you do it?

Comment author: wedrifid 21 June 2011 05:00:06AM *  2 points [-]

Anyone who would "challenge", physically assault, etc. me because I made them (or someone) feel a bit uncomfortable for a couple of moments, I think, might be blowing things way out of proportion. That seems unreasonable to me, the inability to deal with a little discomfort.

The impression I am getting is one of belligerent naivety. You are describing the active violation of another's person in a manner with overt and intentional sexual implications. That is a big deal. A strong reaction against that is fairly reasonable and should certainly be expected either by the victim or a witness.

Comment author: AmagicalFishy 21 June 2011 11:50:05PM *  1 point [-]

I'm trying to put a finger on the origin of differences in opinion between me and everyone who agrees with you—but I'm having a hard time. I live in Eastern US, so I can't imagine there's a huge culture gap.

I can't think of any situation where someone could make me feel uncomfortable, and I, in turn, would hit them. To me, that seems absolutely absurd. I can not see the sense in the situation. If I were to touch someone's hair, and, in return he/she kicked me in the testicles—how can a person seriously see that as self defense and not a blatant escalation of an otherwise harmless situation?

Though, wedrifid, it looks like many people agree with you, and it'd be silly to assume everyone but me is violent or unable to handle themselves, so I'm apparently missing something. I've been "messing with people" for a while, and never have I come across anything more severe than someone simply being "weirded out".

There's a difference between not enjoying something and being unable to handle it. There are many things in life I "don't enjoy", but their importance, relevance, or the time I spend thinking about them is infinitesimal.

Is there a generational difference between me and the people commenting? I'm 22. Perhaps socially acceptable actions and reactions were a lot . . . stricter in the past, and that reflects in people's opinions?

Comment author: CuSithBell 21 June 2011 03:56:52AM 1 point [-]

That seems unreasonable to me, the inability to deal with a little discomfort.

So, you think it's unreasonable to attempt to avoid social discomfort by doing something that someone else might not like?