Thank you to Tricycle from me as well! Despite having some complaints, this redesign is nonetheless a definite step towards the better.

I find it very frustrating that I've seen dozens of posts expressing dislike or annoyance at TrikeApps' work, which I'm pretty sure they provided at no cost by the way, and yet I've seen no expressions of thank

I genuinely don't like the new design, and prefer the old one. Why should I express gratitude if I don't feel any? From my perspective, they've put in all their hard work messing up/taking away something I liked just fine.

I don't even know what it is that's supposed to have been "improved". I don't notice any convenient new features. Maybe they're there, but I haven't come across them. All I notice are visual differences such as icons instead of text (where I strongly preferred text), and various bugs. This just looks to me like one of those periodic aesthetically-motivated "revampings" done by people with different aesthetics from mine who undervalue constancy relative to "change" -- like TV shows changing perfectly good theme music for no other reason than they've "had it for a while".

I acknowledge that there were problems before, and that this redesign could have been even worse. But I don't see the need for a new visual look at all -- why not just fix the bugs, and leave the basic appearance alone?

I dislike it enough that I probably won't be participating much anymore. (Needless to say, the account under which this comment is being posted is not the one I usually post under.)

Thank you Will.

which I'm pretty sure they provided at no cost by the way

The original announcement just said "professional designer". For some reason I'd assumed they were paid. I couldn't locate evidence either way, but I didn't look that hard.

That said, this is a geek community, so I think there's a strong culture of "get it fixed first, praise it second". I noticed myself doing the same and was inclined to drop a "thank you, BTW!" comment out there to offset that, so I'm glad to see this thread already doing that :)

Once the delete function is back, I'll consider the design a net positive; until then I'd actually prefer the old version.

I find it very frustrating that I've seen dozens of posts expressing dislike or annoyance at TrikeApps' work, which I'm pretty sure they provided at no cost by the way, and yet I've seen no expressions of thanks. What the fuck.

"What the fuck"? The fuck is that you don't thank people for doing things you would prefer that they did not do.

I deny your grasp for moral superiority! Doubly so for the misuse of the "What The Fuck?" phrase. That rhetoric is something I reserve for clearly valid objections that require particular emphasis. Do not defile it so.

Thanks from me as well, I like the pictograms.

Yes the site is even sexier!

Thank you Tricycle!

I like the new nesting better, and don't really mind the pictograms. I liked the old map banner, but this also totally goes better with the rest of the site. I'll grow to like it.

The site looks much nicer, and has lots of features that we really should have. The change is definitely for the better.

Good now that that's out of the way, let me say I like the new header, but replacing things like "deleted", "report" ect. with pictogram's was unnecessary. Also the new nesting seems less aesthetically pleasing, though I think that is outweighed by it being easier to follow. Also thumbs up and thumbs down seems to me to have a different implied meaning compared to vote up and vote down.

Maybe I should have taken greater pains to emphasise that the new nesting is better overall.

My only real complaint is the pictograms.

The seemingly different implied meaning of the up and down vote are perhaps a feature, and I was more or less seeking feedback if people agree with this.

BTW Is there another thread where the changes are discussed? Somehow I feel like I've missed a part of the conversation that most of the community hasn't.