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Jonathan_Graehl comments on HP:MoR: request for Reliable Sources - Less Wrong Discussion

12 Post author: gwern 24 June 2011 01:36AM

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Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 24 June 2011 04:30:44AM 6 points [-]

Passive voice is unfairly vilified. I don't like it when it's obviously serving to avoid citing the agent of an action, but consider that "Z has been Yed by X" or "X has Yed Z" give the same information. If you look at the best writing, you'll find some passive constructions.

Mostly, people can't reliably identify passives - see especially these amusing (not unusual) "passive voice" corrections, although in your case you accurately identify it (except maybe you could call "X [is] sprinkled with Y" an adjective complement instead of a passive version of [somebody] sprinkles Y on X).

I agree with the meat of your complaint. I often see poor quality writing on Wikipedia, and it's fine that people want to spend time cleaning it.

Comment author: Desrtopa 24 June 2011 01:18:32PM 1 point [-]

I agree that passive voice has valid uses (my parents' admonitions didn't bother me just because I didn't want to be corrected,) but if you try to write stuff that scans well, I don't think you'll often err too far on the side of not using it.