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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 25 June 2011 01:52:19AM *  2 points [-]

For those paying close attention, see this.

Didn't notice this has gone live. Luke edited in the wiki source of about page what I think is just terribly wrong, and now it's the site's about page, but it's 5:40 AM and I can't figure out a way of undoing the problem without removing the content. From the page:

Community norms
Twelve Virtues of Rationality summarizes the core norms of Less Wrong: ...
There are also community norms about how to use words. For example: don't sneak in connotations or endlessly debate definitions.

These are not norms, these are skills, and there is no hope or point in enforcing them, particularly absent understanding the purpose.

It's like saying that believing that ZFC is consistent is a community norm in a math seminar. Doesn't sound at all right.

Comment author: lukeprog 25 June 2011 04:49:17AM 0 points [-]

I was not a lone actor. The new About page I wrote was approved by SI.

The community norms are both norms and skills. I have seen them enforced by the community hundreds of times.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 24 July 2011 11:24:27AM 0 points [-]

I've just edited out the phrase "community norms" from the "about" page.

Comment author: lukeprog 24 July 2011 07:14:40PM 0 points [-]

I like what you've come up with. Thanks.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 25 June 2011 09:09:18AM -1 points [-]

I was not a lone actor. The new About page I wrote was approved by SI.

(Which to some extent does indeed mean you're not a lone actor, but it's worth noting that SI approval isn't much of an argument in favor of the About page's quality. (Just wanted to make sure people didn't assume you were making an argument from authority.))

Comment author: matt 25 June 2011 04:23:23AM 0 points [-]

I assume "I can't figure out a way of undoing the problem" speaks to finding the right words for the about page.
The technical way to solve the problem is to edit the wiki page (with the right words, whatever those may be), then wait a few hours or be logged in to LW and click the "Force reload from wiki" button at the bottom of the about page.