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AdeleneDawner comments on Leveling IRL - level 1 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: AdeleneDawner 09 August 2011 09:56:49PM 7 points [-]

"I begin to feel like I've accomplished my goals. It's like I think that adulthood is something that can be earned like a trophy in one monumental burst of effort and then admired and coveted for the rest of one's life. "

We could have an explicit norm that you can't consider yourself at a given level unless you can pass the relevant test(s) at the time. That seems thoroughly reasonable to me - it allows for saying things like "I used to be at level 6 strength, but I've been so busy at work this year that I haven't gotten to work out hardly at all, and I've slid to level 4".

Comment author: Pfft 12 August 2011 12:43:08PM 5 points [-]

This sounds good.

Another way to look at it is to say that the levels always come with a timestamp. Once you attain them, you can mentally award yourself a nice badge, like so:

But the badge is only valid for that year; like car tax discs and food truck permits you must keep it up to date.

Comment author: Raemon 09 August 2011 10:29:41PM 2 points [-]

I think a norm that makes you lose your level is less useful than a norm that actively encourages you to keep it. For example, each month I briefly attempt to better at the "Self Control" skill. I've successfully done it once a few months ago. Since then I don't think I've done the full 8 days.

I don't want to be able to say "I am capable of working solidly in 2 hour chunks 8 times a month," I want to actually have done that, on a continuous basis (and frankly I want to do better than eight 2 hour chunks, but from my own experience I think it's a pretty decent level 1 achievement, embarassing as that may be.)

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 09 August 2011 11:20:53PM 0 points [-]

Well, if you haven't tested yourself at least semi-recently, you can't properly say that you can do a given thing, so there's not all that much difference between these two, I think. Either way works for me.