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JoshuaZ comments on Please do not downvote every comment or post someone has ever made as a retaliation tactic. - Less Wrong Discussion

39 Post author: Will_Newsome 21 August 2011 12:35PM

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 21 August 2011 01:44:25PM 11 points [-]

Are you sure that someone went ahead and did that and that you didn't just have a few downvotes of old top-level posts happen to occur within a short span of each other? Or alternatively someone could have been going through and reading your comments systematically and they disagreed with a lot more than they agreed so they downvoted more than they upvoted?

(I just lost over 200 karma in a few minutes and that'll probably continue for awhile. This happens to me every few weeks.)

This is a really interesting statement. This has never happened to me. And I think of myself of having multiple opinions that strongly disagree with common views here. I wonder if that indicates that I'm not being vocal enough. The strange thing about this is that in order to get a 200 karma downvote someone needs to have a substantial minimal karma (you cannot downvote more than four times your total karma). So someone would need to be putting in a lot of effort to downvote your comments or you are irritating a lot of people. Is there any opinion or attitude of yours that you think would be particularly likely to trigger this sort of response?

Comment author: Will_Newsome 21 August 2011 02:11:05PM *  8 points [-]

Are you sure that someone went ahead and did that and that you didn't just have a few downvotes of old top-level posts happen to occur within a short span of each other? Or alternatively someone could have been going through and reading your comments systematically and they disagreed with a lot more than they agreed so they downvoted more than they upvoted?

Nah, they were dropping in clumps of like 6 a piece every few seconds as I refreshed the page. It happens to other people too.

Is there any opinion or attitude of yours that you think would be particularly likely to trigger this sort of response?

Partially it is because I write about things like Thomism in a really obscure way that appears masturbatory. I generally disregard local norms of communication. People have no idea why I do this but they assume it's because I am either insane, extremely prone to compartmentalization, or choosing to defect against the tribe for some reason. It seems to them that I consistently choose not to provide evidence that would lead them to expect otherwise. I assume that they think that allowing such blatant defection makes LW look bad or generally sets a bad precedent and so feel justified in downvoting many of my comments into oblivion and occasionally downvoting all my posts. They don't often downvote all my comments too. Maybe they're trying to be subtle? The first time I checked LW and had 300 karma less than the previous day I wasn't quite sure what had happened and just ignored it. It's easy to miss.

The most recent mass downvoting could have been caused by one of two things. I think it's because I repeatedly told Eliezer that he sucks at reading in a very public thread but I'm not certain of that.

Comment author: mwengler 21 August 2011 02:33:10PM 27 points [-]

This is news. In a reversal of the usual order of things, your karma got run over by your dogma.

Comment author: Desrtopa 21 August 2011 04:02:00PM 3 points [-]

Nah, they were dropping in clumps of like 6 a piece every few seconds as I refreshed the page. It happens to other people too.

Who else has this happened to? The only other person I'm aware of this happening to is Curi after his conjunction fallacy post, and someone had apparently already done the opposite so he would have the karma to post it in the first place.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 22 August 2011 12:44:40AM 3 points [-]

One person I observed this happen to is peterdjones when he was arguing for moral realism in a very contentious thread.

Comment author: loup-vaillant 22 August 2011 09:32:29AM 1 point [-]

It happened to me. I find that a bit surprising since I was (and still am) so insignificant here.

Comment author: saturn 21 August 2011 06:43:24PM 1 point [-]

I think I remember pjeby claiming it had happened to him, but I can't find the post.

Comment author: khafra 22 August 2011 12:41:41PM 2 points [-]