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Comment author: khafra 13 September 2011 02:59:44AM 3 points [-]

That's a bit confusing. You've got at least 20 IQ points on me, and far more practice at bayescraft; but I saw our disproportionate response and its failure coming by that afternoon. Cringely is hardly the most prescient of pundits; even in his focus of technology. But two days later, he described in detail the coming disaster America would choose. Did we simply get lucky with a temporarily epistemically useful ideology?

Comment author: JoshuaZ 13 September 2011 03:10:24AM *  3 points [-]

That's a bit confusing. You've got at least 20 IQ points on me, and far more practice at bayescraft;

I don't know where you are getting the 20 IQ point estimate from, but I doubt it. I also don't have much practice at "Bayescraft" and certainly didn't a decade ago. Cringely's response seems to only focus on the airline aspects not the war issues.

Did we simply get lucky with a temporarily epistemically useful ideology?

I'm not sure what ideology you are referring to in this context.

In any event, I suspect that people here overestimate both the advantage of intelligence and the advantage of rationality in making predictions about the world.

Comment author: lessdazed 13 September 2011 04:37:13AM 1 point [-]

I suspect that people here overestimate both the advantage of intelligence and the advantage of rationality in making predictions about the world.

Overestimate the advantages to making the best prediction in a field of predictors, are right about the advantages to avoid making the worst prediction in a field of predictors.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 14 September 2011 01:43:43AM 0 points [-]

I don't understand what you mean. Can you expand?

Comment author: lessdazed 14 September 2011 08:08:53AM 2 points [-]

Rationality prevents you from thinking a Soviet invasion of Poland followed by a break in US-Soviet relations is more likely than a break in US-Soviet relations. It doesn't help much in estimating either.